Curse

DarkDeal · Nov 01, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55

I am still real new and am wondering about Paragon as the second class for a Vampire summoner.

Skills I have come up with are as follows;
[skill]Animate Vampiric Horror[/skill][skill]Blood of the Master[/skill][skill]Order of Undeath[/skill][skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Dark Bond[/skill][skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Leader's Comfort[/skill]

Basically I guess I want to get vampires out there and keep them alive. I try to pump their attacks with "Go for the Eyes" and Order of Undeath. Hopefully that will make up for all my sacrificing of life. I also have Comfort in there just in case though.

It seems like I would need some kind of direct damage to atleast get the summoning rolling. I have one free spot and have no clue what to put there.
Would it be viable at all to go super low HP like the 55Monk? The percent I would heal from the Vampires would be plenty I would think then. I dont really know too much about gear if anyone wants to give adivse.

Also, being that I'm so new, is there anything I am just completely missing the ball on? This all looks ok on paper, but energy looks like it might be a problem.

Thanks

Reason · Nov 01, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Everything is wrong with this build, just don't bother. I don't know where to start, but just don't bother, make a Necromancer if you want to raise the undead.

Str0b0 · Nov 01, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Well energy for a necro is going to be found in your soul reaping attribute. A minion based build generally kills efficiently for soul reaping, not too many simultaneous deaths.Vamp horrors are nice though. If you want added e management then. Aria of zeal might help but I don't use paragons so I don't know. In theory this build looks decent. I don't think it's going to be a real stunner though. I too am stuck on what to recommend as a direct damage killer, maybe Deathly swarm but it is slow and light on the damage so honestly you might want to hope that you can find an animal to kill to get you at least one horror. Bitter chill might work as a single target spammable if you cast Order of undeath on yourself to get your health low, but then again you can't be thinking of going solo with this. H/H should be able to take one mob and give you the chance to get your army up and running. If not then as they die you can get your army up form their corpses and keep it rolling from there. Most MM's tend to diversify their minion line up a little more and Jagged bones is the favorite elite most of the time but I can see you are going for a theme type build and there is nothing wrong with that. Honestly an MM is an MM so as long as you can get your army up and keep it up your party usually will not care.

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Originally Posted by Reason

Everything is wrong with this build, just don't bother. I don't know where to start, but just don't bother, make a Necromancer if you want to raise the undead.

He is talking about using a paragon secondary. If you don't have anything constructive to say then leave and take the scent of fail with you.

Div · Nov 01, 2007, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reason

Everything is wrong with this build, just don't bother. I don't know where to start, but just don't bother, make a Necromancer if you want to raise the undead.

Necro is his first class. He's asking about paragon as the second.

Paragon as the second could work with leader's comfort and GftE. The biggest problem I see with this build is that you won't have enough minions. Being able to create one every 15 seconds isn't very good. It'd be nice if you had another minion making skill. Otherwise, it's decent for a starter bar.

Str0b0 · Nov 01, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16

Yeah I forgot about recharge on that. A couple of HSR mods would help but that isn't a guarantee. I could see how it would be easy to maintain the army once he got it up so long as combat was a more or less constant. Effectively whatever he sacced he would gain back from the increased damage his minions would do. I think it is better than a starter bar but definitely not something a lot of people are going to be open minded about. If you really want to pursue this build you might have to get used to guildies or H/H.

Reason · Nov 01, 2007, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

Well energy for a necro is going to be found in your soul reaping attribute. A minion based build generally kills efficiently for soul reaping, not too many simultaneous deaths.Vamp horrors are nice though. If you want added e management then. Aria of zeal might help but I don't use paragons so I don't know. In theory this build looks decent. I don't think it's going to be a real stunner though. I too am stuck on what to recommend as a direct damage killer, maybe Deathly swarm but it is slow and light on the damage so honestly you might want to hope that you can find an animal to kill to get you at least one horror. Bitter chill might work as a single target spammable if you cast Order of undeath on yourself to get your health low, but then again you can't be thinking of going solo with this. H/H should be able to take one mob and give you the chance to get your army up and running. If not then as they die you can get your army up form their corpses and keep it rolling from there. Most MM's tend to diversify their minion line up a little more and Jagged bones is the favorite elite most of the time but I can see you are going for a theme type build and there is nothing wrong with that. Honestly an MM is an MM so as long as you can get your army up and keep it up your party usually will not care.

He is talking about using a paragon secondary. If you don't have anything constructive to say then leave and take the scent of fail with you.

GAH! Your right, and so hip and trendy to, using the term fail like all the teenagers these days, next thing your going to use "Moar" your so cool brewster.

My apolagies, I misread the original post.

Str0b0 · Nov 01, 2007, 07:23 AM // 07:23

Again you fail. This time in your use of Stewie like sarcasm. When attempting to take the high road of sarcasm coupled with the implication of your opponent's immaturity one must always be sure to use the spell check. Apologies,I can't stand people who don't use spell check. If you don't have a spell check built into your browser might I recommend that you give Firefox a try?

Reason · Nov 01, 2007, 07:24 AM // 07:24

This is not a formal situation so I don't need spell check, you know what I meant.

Moloch Vein · Nov 01, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

There was a thread on the /P secondary for necromancer a while ago.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10186584

Draginvry · Nov 01, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

This build lacks [skill]animate bone horror[/skill]