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Old Sep 04, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38   #21
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You won't have the same satisfaction in PvE as you do with PvP, simply because you know in the back of your mind that the AI has no emotions. Unlike a player, you know they are yelling and screaming at their monitor cursing your name as you hex them into utter uselessness.

I find I get satisfaction from my Mesmer in beating missions and quests just with henchies and heros. I also get satisfaction from preventing my party from taking damage, from killing very hard monsters (like monk bosses and elementalist bosses), and from proving to myself, I can interupt almost as good as any computer AI. Once you see paterns in the computer's abilities, you can interupt almost anything.

Everyone has their own idea what is fun, try different things with your mesmer, experimenting can be fun too.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #22
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You know...one of the major reasons I bought this game and wanted to play it so badly was because I read about the Mesmer class and it sounded so unique and complex...and boy is it.

The first character I made was my Mesmer and I still love playing him to this day. I never get bored with him and am always trying new and different skill combinations always searching for a dynamic mix of abilities. I love their armor over any other profession, the whole concept and aura of mystery that surrounds them really appeals to me.

None of the other classes really grabbed me quite like the Mesmer. I tried them all and became bored quickly. The only other class that tends to keep my attention is a Monk, but even that wears thin after a while.

When GW2 comes out if there is a Mesmer class (which I'm hoping they do keep), I'll be all over it.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #23
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Oh and to answer your question, for me it's about mixing things up all the time. I'll run with a build for a bit, if I get bored with it, I'll take a look at the skill trainer and see what interesting combos I can come up with. I'll try them out, if I like the build I'll play it till I'm bored if not then I'll keep trying things out till I feel satisfied.

I have to agree to an extent that you either get into playing a mesmer or you don't. My brother tried them out and absolutely hates them. They don't make sense to him and frustrate him, he prefers playing Necros and Rangers. In the end they may not be your thing or fit your play style...nothing wrong with that!

So my stance on Mesmers is it's a game of thinking and carefully working your skills, constantly anticipating your enemy's next move and knowing their weakness and what you can do to hinder them in any form. That to me is the fun of it all
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #24
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To me, I really enjoy Mesmers because they give me a sense of control in a fight. When I first started GW, after a week of trying the Professions, I chose Monk to specialize in. I chose monk because I wanted to have control over an important aspect of the game: keeping people alive.

So I decided to go to the Mesmer because although I wasn't controlling if my team died, I was controlling if their casters/fighters used their skills. Now that I have, I can say that I enjoy playing it much more than monks. Having and enforcing control over a monk is very fun, and not nearly as stressful as monking (to me). Plus, it is a job where you can make a massive difference on the battlefield.
In playing PvE, I've noticed that the most dangerous mobs I face are the ones with a Mesmer and a Monk, and second to that, either a Mesmer or a Monk. Or multiples of these - a group of Mesmers for example.

Anything else they brought was just DPS, and can be out DPS'd or otherwise out maneuvered. But if the mob has a Mesmer I'm in real trouble, and if it has a Monk I'm in real trouble if I don't have a Mesmer...

Getting GW:EN and unlocking Gwen, I noticed a sudden boost in my effectiveness the first time I brought her along.

So I switched my mains to a Mesmer and a Monk.

If the most effective thing on the AI side seems to be a Mesmer followed by a Monk, it can't be all that ineffective on the player side. I'm new to a Mesmer, but I am finding it very potent - and I'm still at the 'click all the buttons and hope I got the right one' stage. Just starting to learn, as of yesterday, how to gauge the different interactions. Once I figure that out this new character is going to be unstoppable.

Of course, I took a year off from GW, and in that time I played things like Controllers / Defenders in City of Heroes and Shamans / Warlocks in WoW - all of which have Mesmer like aspects to them.

The old GI Joe cartoon saying was 'knowing is half the battle' - controlling the information in strategy is a lot like controlling what the other side can do in tactics. The potency of a Mesmer comes in there, and any PvE PUG that fails to realize that is giving half the battle away to the other side.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #25
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Thanks guys for all the comments, i start playing with it and i really love it now

If some one got a good working build please post it.
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Old Sep 24, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39   #26
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Mantra Of Recovery

AOE nuking.

its amazing for vanquishing 4 mor aoe eles.. 1 explosive mm..

dead mobs everywhere P;
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Old Sep 25, 2007, 09:25 AM // 09:25   #27
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I'm always having so much fun with the combo: Fevered Dreams->Fragility->accumulated pain. After that stick a virulence necro on the target and ask yourself: What idiot said mesmers are bad AoE damage????
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 01:24 AM // 01:24   #28
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http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Me...n%27s_Parasite

i think thats a very fun build to play for a mesmer
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30   #29
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To answer your question (whats so fun) little things like

In PVP putting someone in there place. My favorite moment was a Dervish running a mystic healing build. Of course no one had enchantment removal (Random Arenas). The derv was cocky and was bragging that he was unstoppable and we were all noobs. He killed off the rest of my crew except me and a warrior. I took him out with Backfire. I started casting it because I knew he had a spell on his skill bar. He started casting Mystic Healing right after me and about a 1/2 second before his spell took effect Backfire took hold and he killed himself. It was priceless.

In PVE some many things. Favorite moment in PVE as a Mesmer. “Acquiring Olias” This was the time right when they were changing it to the current system. If you had the old quest active when they made the change you could fight a group out side LA and get him unlocked. All other people had to acquire the current mini mission to get him. Well I was totally confused and didn’t now why I could not get the quest to get Olias outside of LA. So I sent messages asking if anyone else was having problems getting the quest. I was answer by a guy saying he has been trying to finish it for 2 weeks to get him, and could not get past the group of casters you face. I thought maybe I should try it, and maybe he will unlock. I joined him and we went out (Of course I could not get Olias but I could fight the quest) I set up a Fast Casting Searing Flames Build and I nuked the heck out of them (pre-nerf of AOE). I had them killed before the assassin I was with got through his combo. I remember his message. What the hell was that? What skills did you use? I replied the new Mesmer skills in Nightfall they are awesome.
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14   #30
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Its kinda more about stuff that surrounds class (mesmer-only meeting, mesmer only parties doing some pve together, back pats for being mesmer from other mesmers, 5 minutes of wammo hate ...) than that class actually.

Also, GWO is full of pathological "i play mesmer because its least popular class ... and prove it is actually most powerfull class to play because people dont play it because they are stupid, so i am god at gw." Theese people wont help you become good mesmer, for they will "okay" you any stupid stuff you put to bar because they love snowflakes.

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Now, fun playing memser is not in its power, because it is not powerfull class.

Its in way you interact with your surrounding and with skills in game, since to be worth your slot in party, you need battle awareness, good knowledge of most skills, good timing and reflexes, since you will "dance" bewteen enemies, throws interupts and make mess of them so that all others im party can do their job easier and better. Such amout of concentration needed makes battle look a lot more intesnte that it really is for any other character and can pump adrenaline nicely.

Its similar to ranger, but not that relaxed. Mesmer is support class, some people love to play this kind of stuff.
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Old Oct 12, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33   #31
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#1 reason why mesmer are awsome, they have masks. Imposing mask looks awsome (atleast that's my opinion)
#2 reason, against high armour lvl foes, a mesmer can way out dmge even an elementalist.
#3 reason, a lot of spells that can screw with opponent
#4 reason, Mesmers have some of the coolest looking staffs skins in the entire game: Willcrusher, Encorceling staff, etc.
#5 reason, your bound to like at least one armour type, if you have Factions and Prophices or Nightfall that is.
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Old Oct 13, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45   #32
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1. Mesmerines are the prettiest characters in whole game, they have beautiful outfits... How can you say they are bad-looking? You can't.
2. Universality, you can make Mesmer useful in ANY dungeon.
3. Also in ANY mission/quest.
4. Great in PvE/PvP.
5. Can farm pretty nicely.
6. Mob control is priceless - massive snares without Ele snares.
7. AoE nuking with Mesmer and Elementalist skills - Cry of Pain, Fire Magic, Energy Surge, Cry of Frustration.
8. Even dance is sexy and the only class with better emote are female Elementalists, but that's because of Belly Dance.
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