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horseradish · Oct 18, 2007, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Anyone found a use for this skill?

pretty weak for an elite slot imo.

anyone?

Stormlord Alex · Oct 18, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Does it give me the energy I need to lay Ancestors' and Splinter on everything?

... no?

Well then... Offering of Spirit will still rule as long as Rageing/Splintering physicals is still the best way to pwn face.

Really, it's a terrible Elite - a free, pitifully weak straight DD/self-heal if you're lugging ashes around.
I'd rather take Channeled Strike, kthxbai... at least that might almost sting...

... Expel Hexes is good too, keep forgetting that one...

Oso Minar · Oct 18, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

There have always been better elites than Caretaker's Charge.

horseradish · Oct 18, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07

lol thought as much. good thing i didn't cap it

terminus123 · Oct 18, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

hmm...I guess it could serve some purpose in spamming with Protective was (insert name here), but not too much use, not many elite Channeling spells are really good.

street peddler · Oct 18, 2007, 07:12 PM // 19:12

caretakers is good in pvp

Stormlord Alex · Oct 18, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by street peddler

caretakers is good in pvp

You'd take a skill most people wouldn't even consider bringing to a PvE (read: easy as hell) zone to a competitive situation... why?

Caretaker's is really weak, tbh.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Oct 18, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

[skill]Caretaker's Charge[/skill][skill]Generous Was Tsungrai[/skill][skill]Soothing Memories[/skill][skill]Destruction[/skill][skill]Essence Strike[/skill][skill]Spirit Burn[/skill][skill]Channeled Strike[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]
Any rez works.

Max out chanelling and healing.

This build provides a time bomb that people don't want to explode, while providing perfect energy managment with some good healing and putting out very good pressure. I use this build in ta and RA and want to try it in HA.

street peddler · Oct 18, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

You'd take a skill most people wouldn't even consider bringing to a PvE (read: easy as hell) zone to a competitive situation... why?

Caretaker's is really weak, tbh.

free damage and healing??

Stormlord Alex · Oct 18, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

... 71 damage and 47 healing (14 spec)...

47 health gain is nothing. 71 damage is almost as bad.

Expel Hexes and Weapon of Remedy do something useful, Caretaker's does not.

Dr Strangelove · Oct 18, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

[skill]Caretaker's Charge[/skill][skill]Generous Was Tsungrai[/skill][skill]Soothing Memories[/skill][skill]Destruction[/skill][skill]Essence Strike[/skill][skill]Spirit Burn[/skill][skill]Channeled Strike[/skill][skill]Death Pact Signet[/skill]
Any rez works.

When you make a channeling build, remember to ask yourself:

"Am I doing anything that a crappy ele spamming vanilla damage spells can't do better?"

If the answer is no, change something.

street peddler · Oct 18, 2007, 09:11 PM // 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

... 71 damage and 47 healing (14 spec)...

47 health gain is nothing. 71 damage is almost as bad.

Expel Hexes and Weapon of Remedy do something useful, Caretaker's does not.

free health and energy while maintaining damage output, it can be worked into something, its not the worst elite.

Brutal · Oct 19, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I use it on a Channeling AB build.

Hold Item(the one that gives energy+armour) -> Spirit Rift -> Channelled Strike -> Caretaker's Charge.

Is great for killing NPCs at the shrines.

It's certainly not the strongest Ritualist elite skill but it's also not the weakest and can be used in some decent builds imo.

noocoo · Oct 19, 2007, 01:39 PM // 13:39

It was a great elite before when the energy gain is 7~8 en.

But, now................hmm.....I would take other elites.

Quicksilver Switch-Blade · Oct 19, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

If this skill gave you twice as much health (or just take this part of the skill away and increase the damage), and had an energy return similar to essence strike (if you are carrying an item that is), it could be good.
Right now, its a very weak elite.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Oct 23, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

When you make a channeling build, remember to ask yourself:

"Am I doing anything that a crappy ele spamming vanilla damage spells can't do better?"

If the answer is no, change something.

While what you say can be true I have seen this build take out 4 people in RA. It's a good pressure build.

Oso Minar · Oct 23, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

in RA.

I'm curious...where does the pressure come from? Spirit Burn does pitiful damage now. Essence Strike never had any use beyond energy management. Channeled Strike does decent damage but is easily inturrupted by any competent player. Destruction also does decent damage, but is easily interrupted and normally targetted first by any marginally intelligent player.

Caretaker's Charge may be somewhat nice for energy and health management on, say, a survivor character or otherwise pansyish PvE player, but unless you're going up against imbeciles (see quote), there are better elites to take into PvP.