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kwillance · Oct 24, 2007, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Seriously is it because they suck and knows nothing about Mesmers?

mostly when I try to join Groups even with Guildies some think they are useless as in shittest class

and I tend to do alot of FoW and most groups think mesmers are shit

I can prove that my Mesmer can do more damage than a Ranger or something in FoW.

Arrrg!

elektra_lucia · Oct 24, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17

What skillbar do you use

kwillance · Oct 24, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

actaully they don't even Ask for the skillbar, they don't even accept to party ¬_¬

I'm not stupid lol

whenever I do go to FoW I use Hex Eater and Shatter Hex

Kattar · Oct 24, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Generally starting a topic with the above title will only evoke negative reactions from the rest of the community, especially with regards to mesmers. So you may want to keep that in mind before you post.

But...

Mesmers in general are underappreciated. Mostly because people don't know how to use them or understand how they work. Search these forums and you'll find a plethora of threads with a ridiculous amount of discussion on this topic.

Hope that helps.

(Hides in corner and waits for dean harper to respond.)

kwillance · Oct 24, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

It really annoyed me today becuase I was in ToA and this guy said

"Clearing all FoW looking for Pro Players that knows about the game"

when I try to join the party with me Mesmer, he denied so I decided to ask why he din't accept me to the party. He din't even bother checking my skills -.-

This guy thought that Mesmers are useless and said looking for Pro Players on his addvertisment, so he obviously doesnt know what he is talking about o.O

Shadowspawn X · Oct 24, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Lots of people don't acknowledge a good mesmer is a pivotal team player and makes everyones job easier. Mesmers are a great class but many people dont take the time to learn to play one properly so are a poor representation of the class, which in turn makes it that much harder for you to get a group.Also without a team the mesmer is not as self reliant as the other classes. I'd find another guild where you are appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Katsumi Rikyu

Mesmers in general are underappreciated. Mostly because people don't know how to use them or understand how they work.

I disagree, i think the above statement was true a year ago, but many GW players have been around the block in the 2+ years of GW. People do understand the mesmer , but just decide to pass on what they are bringing to the table. This is true in pve and pvp these days.

Pick Me · Oct 24, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Sadly, some people may have taken a mesmer in a group before (who was not as good as you) and had a bad experience.

People tend to look at the mesmer class at best - the windriders. Computer reaction time to interupt, beats humans handsdown. Windriders or any other mesmer monster goes down hard and fast, human mesmers are no different. So in their minds, Mesmers are not as good at interupting (when humans play them) and are squishie. People believe that mesmers are good for interupts only, they look at the skills (all available) and say that there is no nuking (no good AoE), no direct unconditional damgage that an ele couldn't do better, hex removals are left to monks, etc.

I've had that happen to me before, I was trying to do a NF mission, when a guy was asking for more players to do it. I joined, then he rejected me. I asked why he rejected me? (And he didn't say, needs mnks or experienced players or professionals or whatever, just for more people). He told me Mesmers suck in PvE.

I was a bit ticked at that, and did the mission with heros and henchies. I almost got masters.

Any group that is good, will accept a mesmer in it. Mesmer rock in some areas, and are good in others.

elektra_lucia · Oct 24, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwillance

actaully they don't even Ask for the skillbar, they don't even accept to party ¬_¬

I'm not stupid lol

whenever I do go to FoW I use Hex Eater and Shatter Hex

I never called you stupid, I asked for your skillbar and you went on about something irrelevant. Care to answer my question now?

What skillbar do you use ?

kwillance · Oct 24, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Lots of people don't acknowledge a good mesmer is a pivotal team player and makes everyones job easier. Mesmers are a great class but many people dont take the time to learn to play one properly so are a poor representation of the class, which in turn makes it that much harder for you to get a group.Also without a team the mesmer is not as self reliant as the other classes. I'd find another guild where you are appreciated.

I disagree, i think the above statement was true a year ago, but many GW players have been around the block in the 2+ years of GW. People do understand the mesmer , but just decide to pass on what they are bringing to the table. This is true in pve and pvp these days.

yea that is true howver I do agree with both of you guys

elektra_lucia · Oct 24, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

What skillbar do you use?

kwillance · Oct 24, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

What skillbar do you use?

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first of all, this topic isnt about what skills I use, it is about peoples understanding of Mesmers!

however here it is.

I use this for FoW. I don't use any inspiration becuase I have enaugh energy management and I max my Domination and Fast Casting instead.

elektra_lucia · Oct 24, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwillance

#

first of all, this topic isnt about what skills I use, it is about peoples understanding of Mesmers!

however here it is.

I use this for FoW. I don't use any inspiration becuase I have enaugh energy management and I max my Domination and Fast Casting instead.

What runes do you use?

Well pardon me but I didn't expect you to reply with garbage. After all, you said you're not stupid remember

. It was a simple question, you could of written out the skills. Anyways, your skillbar is bad. Which has everything to do with the understanding of mesmers. Due to bad mesmers running bad bars (like yourself) people don't always realise how good mesmers can be.

Hope you have the answer to the thread now.

Tyla · Oct 24, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

What runes do you use?

Well pardon me but I didn't expect you to reply with garbage. After all, you said you're not stupid remember

. It was a simple question, you could of written out the skills. Anyways, your skillbar is bad. Which has everything to do with the understanding of mesmers. Due to bad mesmers running bad bars (like yourself) people don't always realise how good mesmers can be.

Hope you have the answer to the thread now.

well...not bad with PvE,since PvE is so damn easy when not on HM or not in elite missions

kwillance · Oct 24, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

What runes do you use?

Well pardon me but I didn't expect you to reply with garbage. After all, you said you're not stupid remember

. It was a simple question, you could of written out the skills. Anyways, your skillbar is bad. Which has everything to do with the understanding of mesmers. Due to bad mesmers running bad bars (like yourself) people don't always realise how good mesmers can be.

Hope you have the answer to the thread now.

you are funny =] I like that

and why do you want to know what runes I use when you just said this sucks?

and umm FoW is Full of Hexes, Shatter and Hex Eater seems to do alot of damage

elektra_lucia · Oct 24, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Quote:

well...not bad with PvE,since PvE is so damn easy when not on HM or not in elite missions

It's a bad bar. I can complete all the games running nothing but heal other on my monk. It does not make the skill bar good. His skill bar is bad, and considering he said he was more powerful than a ranger (which he is not) this whole thread is a joke.

Quote:

you are funny =] I like that

You are bad at guild wars.

Quote:

and why do you want to know what runes I use when you just said this sucks?

and umm FoW is Full of Hexes, Shatter and Hex Eater seems to do alot of damage

I will tell you after your answer me

. You're right that there is a lot of hexes, your skill-bar is still bad, though.

kwillance · Oct 24, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

It's a bad bar. I can complete all the games running nothing but heal other on my monk. It does not make the skill bar good. His skill bar is bad, and considering he said he was more powerful than a ranger (which he is not) this whole thread is a joke.

You are bad at guild wars.

ahh now I understand that you are mainly full of shit, so I will just ignore you from this point but hey thanks for your useless advice! keep studing

elektra_lucia · Oct 24, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Quote:

ahh now I understand that you are mainly full of shit, so I will just ignore you from this point but hey thanks for your useless advice! keep studing

You didn't ask for your advice, you asked why people think mesmers suck. I told you.

P.S. I think you mean studying.

John Panda · Oct 24, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

why? because all they can do is run gimmick builds or spam cry of frustration to become useful..

they aren't bad.. good but their are just better options.

PvP .. mesmers are leet.

Gigashadow · Oct 24, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Well, either you think all classes are equally good at pve, or you don't. If you think they are all equally good, you should state at what point in the game's development, because class balance changes constantly with all the updates. If the classes were all equally balanced last week, but class X just got a buff to skill Y, then they aren't equally balanced any more.

If you don't think everyone is equally good in pve, then you should provide your personal ranking of best to worst (for example, I think necros and paragon primaries are the top). Then, expect people from the classes near the bottom of your list to say "I can't believe nubs people think class X sucks". And so forth.

Stormlord Alex · Oct 24, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

I like where this thread is going.