Curse

blkhawk153 · Nov 07, 2007, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Hello, I just capped signet of illusions and I was wondering if there were any pve builds that used it. it seems like a really cheap skill if used right cuz it can be used on pve only skills.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 07, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Mes/ele what ever combo of nukes that you want
Or summons build also works wonders.

TGgold · Nov 07, 2007, 05:18 AM // 05:18

Me

Sig of Illusions
Vanguard Sin
Arcane Echo

Any of the Summon Spells are fun to use too.

Ideas: Auspicious Incantation+Deep Freeze+Ele Nukes(or snowstorm?expensive, but low recharge, may need GoLE)

Power Spike/Empathy/Backfire...kinda boring.

Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom may also be interesting =)

I'm just a fan of AI and Deep Freeze. I say deep freeze since the snare is 10s unconditional, so it doens't concern the SoI bug with multiple variables. It also fuels AI well.

Basically, using sig of illusions, just spam your favorite PvE Skills

the_jos · Nov 07, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

The various summons, when you are not on a high rank on the tracks.
Same for Technobabble, Pain Inverter, CoP and those kind of skills.
I also liked the Vanguard Ward (can't remember the name).
However, SoI has been more of a fun/test build skill than anything else so far.

Celestial_Kitsune · Nov 07, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

I prefer playing Me/Mo with hard res in PvE. For extra support you can use Signet of Illusions + Auspicious Incantation + Heal Party.

blkhawk153 · Nov 08, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

hmm thx guys. i think ill try something like this:

illusion magic: 16
fast casting: 13

1. signet of illusions (works on next 3 spells)
2. arcane echo
3. ebon vanguard assassin support (lvl 21)
4. great dwarf weapon (put it on the vanguard assassin for constant kd)
5. summon ice imp / summon fire djinn (lvl 21)
6. auspicious incantation
7. deep freeze / rodgorts invocation (pair with AI for nrg manegement)
8. aura of restoration (use with deep freeze / rodgort's invocation) / Finish Him! / Technobabble / Rez sig/ another skill

i havnt got ne of the eton pve skill yet so can someone test it out and tell me how it works?

Moloch Vein · Nov 08, 2007, 07:57 AM // 07:57

I heard that the PvE/SoI loophole had been closed, is this false?

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 08, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

I hope not. That would make me sad I am making a pve soon I deleted my old one about 4 times

blkhawk153 · Nov 09, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

wat do u mean pve/soi loophole has been closed?

=DNC=Trucker · Nov 09, 2007, 07:52 AM // 07:52

No it hasn't, you can still use SoI with the PVE skills. If they take that away, I am afraid SoI will go back into the gutter

I've been playing with boon of creation and explosive growth when using that build, its fun times

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 09, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

OK good that woulda made me cry if they got rid of.

The loop hole was that since the summons are spells people were using sig of illusions to get really powerful summons and or pve skills without having to faction farm them

=DNC=Trucker · Nov 09, 2007, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Anyone try using [skill]Assassin's Promise[/skill] in charr areas in an attempt to raise those bad boys like mad? Can you imagine 8 sins promise toons chucking vanguard assassins all over the place! lol

Painbringer · Nov 09, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by =DNC=Trucker

Anyone try using [skill]Assassin's Promise[/skill] in charr areas in an attempt to raise those bad boys like mad? Can you imagine 8 sins promise toons chucking vanguard assassins all over the place! lol

This sounds like fun for Vanquising the beginning areas in hard mode 4 party areas turn to 8 party areas in a couple seconds

=DNC=Trucker · Nov 11, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

{Illusion hex of your choice} I like to use ethereal burden for energy
{Signet of Illusions}
{Spirit Rift}
{Asuran Scan}
{Ebon Vangaurd Assassin}
{Cry of Pain}
{optional}
{Explosive Growth}
{Flesh of my Flesh}

Major gimmick, but fun to use on a spike. Get the maxed explosive first, then use spells from left to right.

Azaya · Nov 20, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17

For SoI, you'll probably get the most mileage from PvE title skills. Aside from that, you can bond with it :P

erfweiss · Nov 20, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

I was goofing off this afternoon after reading this thread and I came up with an entertaining build (did all three of the spirit missions on the Norn side with this).

Me/E
Illusion: 12+3+1
Fast casting 11+1
Inspiration 5+1

Signet of Illusion
Ether feast
Ebon Vanguard Assassin
Arcane Mimicry
Clumsiness
Liquid Flame
Arcane Echo
Glyph of Lesser Energy

Usage:
Cast SoI first thing. Heading into battle, run the glyph, arcane echo. Use the Assassin. Use the copy, refresh SoI. Any other spells you like.

When you see one go down, refresh SoI. Arcane Mimicry (I had a minion master with me with Flesh Golem). Bring up level 26 golem.

Mass chaos, sure. I loved it.

Now, obviously, that tactic won't work if no corpses. Just pick the elite of your choice on the hero you wish to copy from.

Redfeather1975 · Nov 21, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

I had a PvE build once that used SoI, Arcane Echo, Vanguard Assassin, and Arcane Mimicry.

Arcane Mimicry was used on a teammate that had Assassin's Promise. It's tricky but the purpose was to usE AP to keep recharging Vanguard Assassin and it's copy and then time it so that AP recharged Arcane Mimicry after it ended.
The build worked with practice, but energy was a HUGE problem.

I once had 6 Vanguard Assassin's walking around with nothing to do after a battle ended.

erfweiss · Nov 21, 2007, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I had a PvE build once that used SoI, Arcane Echo, Vanguard Assassin, and Arcane Mimicry.

For the record, it was your build at the Norn Fighting Tournament that I modeled this around. Before then, didn't know you could chain the Assassins. So, thanks, Redfeather.

Sheriff · Nov 21, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Used a SoI + Mursaat + EBAS build to get a Legendary Survivor title. Other fun skills to add to the mix are Pain Inverter and Necrosis.

The build might often become a bit energy heavy. In that case, bring Eve has henchwoman

Biostem · Nov 22, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Would SoI cause the Sunspear skill Eternal Aura to recharge your mesmer or illusion skills?