Curse

BLOODGOAT · Oct 15, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

I always run dual attunements on my heroes but that's really only because it's the one build they can't screw up. It's hard to screw up casting singular 100dmg spells where 80+% of your energy is restored after your assault.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Oct 16, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

I usally run it on heros, or with water, and air usaully.

Perfected Shadow · Oct 18, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Personally I would use Ward of Weakness instead of Elements or Aura of Restoration

It depends on your team too: my Curses hero makes Ward of Weakness redundant.

viciouspope · Oct 30, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

i use air attunement and elementalist atttument and spam high da,age speels like the orb, hammer, enervating charge for melee, and i use tanaxais wind to knock down all melee attackers plus it gives 60 dmg ( sood at killing w and a) with restoration ti means you gain 30 - 70 health each 1 - 2 seconds

Marverick · Oct 30, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

I would never run dual attunements, there's always better options for e-management.

Fire has [skill]Mind Blast[/skill] which is just an energy cannon, also has damage attached to it.

Air has [skill]Auspicious Incantation[/skill][skill]Lightning Hammer[/skill], with [skill]Air Attunement[/skill] you can spam Orb and Bsurge and Lightning Hammer on recharge without any problems.

Water has [skill]Glowing Ice[/skill] which works fine really, since there's not a whole lot of spamming in that line and mosts skills tend to have 15+ recharges, energy isn't a problem.

Earth, like water, doesn't have short recharge skills and thus energy isn't really a problem either. Plus [skill]Unsteady Ground[/skill] is too amazing to pass up on, 3 knockdowns and 5 pulses of 42 damage for 10 energy?

Perfected Shadow · Oct 30, 2007, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Air has [skill]Auspicious Incantation[/skill][skill]Lightning Hammer[/skill], with [skill]Air Attunement[/skill]you can spam Orb and Bsurge and Lightning Hammer on recharge without any problems.

I don't think AI is a better e-management option, if you read the description:
"the recharge time for...is reset to 25 seconds plus an additional number of seconds equal to the energy cost of the spell."

Unless you've got a BiP necro that you didn't mention, there's no way AI on 50 second recharge can enable the spam of Orb, Hammer, and B-surge

Trevor The Wave · Oct 30, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

by the way perfected, that's not the new Auspicious. AIis VERY good now. because of the updates happening a lot, it is a good energy management source.

btw, I prefer dual attun. because usually monsters have higher energy then you with mind blast.

bungusmaximus · Oct 30, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Dual attune + rodgorts is rather hax, I used that on my ele when I didn't have nightfall yet. I used dual attunes in AB as well, but that turned out to be bl**dy slow. Dual attune + mystic regeneration however is nice to stay alive.

bhavv · Oct 30, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Not owning Nightfall would be the big reason to use dual attunements, as chapter 1 and 2 elites tend to be really bad.

Actually Glyph of renewal and Meteor shower was the best thing going for Prophecies PVE back in the day. This also worked well in cantha.

IMO dual attunement really has no space in PVE, there are far better elites to be using. In cantha and NF there are plenty of enchant removals just about everywhere you go. Drained Elem attunement = wasted elite slot for sure.

Perfected Shadow · Oct 30, 2007, 10:27 AM // 10:27

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by the way perfected, that's not the new Auspicious. AIis VERY good now. because of the updates happening a lot, it is a good energy management source.

My bad, I should keep up to date. Anyway B-Surge in pve is meh for me, since B-Flash, Epidemic can do the job more consistently and I don't like the other Air elites. So I'd still rather run Dual attunes than dump points in Inspiration for AI.

Marverick · Oct 30, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

I don't think AI is a better e-management option, if you read the description:
"the recharge time for...is reset to 25 seconds plus an additional number of seconds equal to the energy cost of the spell."

Unless you've got a BiP necro that you didn't mention, there's no way AI on 50 second recharge can enable the spam of Orb, Hammer, and B-surge

AI recharges in 25 seconds... wtf are you talking about with 50 seconds?

Anyway at 8 inspiration that's 158% energy gain, with Air Attunement you gain 47 energy, which is 22 net energy every 25 seconds, almost an extra 3 pips of regen.

You can Mind Blast Rangers, Warriors, Dervishes and all casters except other Eles and get the +energy easily as long as you use it when you've only lost like 10-20 energy, and not when you've lost half or more of your energy pool.
Or use a +15 energy wand swap if you're low on energy.

Only problem is with some weird specimens that seem to have limitless energy, *cough* bosses *cough*, or those little bastard critters that spam Vamp Touch for 50 years without running dry.

Lourens · Oct 30, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

[skill]Flame Burst[/skill] is a funny skill to spam with [skill]elemental attunement[/skill] or use [skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]arcane echo[/skill] and [skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill] and even [skill]Deep Freeze[/skill] to keep them snared

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Prismatic_Ooze

TGgold · Oct 31, 2007, 01:32 AM // 01:32

I tend to have it on my water hero so he can keep spamming away all of his snares....I don't really know what else would be suitable for a water ele hero bar though.

Perfected Shadow · Oct 31, 2007, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by Marverick

AI recharges in 25 seconds... wtf are you talking about with 50 seconds?

I was reading the old skill descriptions (hovering the mouse on the skill icons).

aznhalf · Oct 31, 2007, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by Lourens

[skill]mind blast[/skill] sucks ... at 16 fire u only get 5 net energy gain

try using [skill]power drain[/skill] u get more but it has a longer recharge and its not an elite skill

Remember you also get 2 back from attunment meaning you get 7 back each cast. 7 energy every few seconds can't be beat, much better emanagment than pdrain.

Stormlord Alex · Oct 31, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Lourens

[skill]mind blast[/skill] sucks ... at 16 fire u only get 5 net energy gain

Snow Bunny · Oct 31, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

I did too.

hai lourens. i need u 2 tank 4 me.

Wil u ekwip mending n heeling hanz 4 me? i liek heeling breez 2. dey r gud, and so r u.

Seriously, there are reasons why Mind Blast + Rodgort's Invocation are played at high level pvp.

Learn to play, please.

rick1027 · Nov 01, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Lourens

[skill]mind blast[/skill] sucks ... at 16 fire u only get 5 net energy gain

try using [skill]power drain[/skill] u get more but it has a longer recharge and its not an elite skill (63 fire dmg = like flare)

what have you ever played ele either that or you thinking of some other skill. mind blast is one of the best elites out there

Lourens · Nov 01, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

[skill]elemental attunement[/skill] best used with [skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill]
and [skill]fire attunement[/skill]

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:E/...cation_Spammer

@ Snow Bunny please shut up ill pwn ya

Stormlord Alex · Nov 01, 2007, 11:39 AM // 11:39

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Originally Posted by Lourens

[skill]elemental attunement[/skill] best used with [skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill]
and [skill]fire attunement[/skill]

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:E/...cation_Spammer

@ Snow Bunny please shut up ill pwn ya

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:E/Rt_Mind_Blast_Nuker
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:E/...t_Elementalist
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:E/...n_Elementalist

... and 2 of them are PvP builds. And the E/Rt nuker is sub-par, which says a lot about the PvX voting system - 'Great' means nothing.
Lourens, please, get a clue before you call Mind Blast bad.