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Stormlord Alex · Nov 19, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Nope, still 2 monks generally.

Though Heal Party eles are seen again

Brian the Gladiator · Nov 20, 2007, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Standard GvG Balance:

W/E - Shock Axe
W/E - Shock Axe
R/Mo - Crip Shot + interrupts
Me/Rt - E-surge + Diversion + interupts + Enchant Removal
E/Mo - B-surge + Draw + Ward against Melee
Mo/any - WoH monk
Mo/and - RC Monk
Rt/D or Mo/E or E/Mo - Flag Runner

This build is good because of it's versitility.
Warriors are the offense or front line of the build. They deal the damage and cause the red bars of the other team to go down.

The mid-line is the Ranger, Mesmer, and Elementalist.
-the ranger allows for versatility by snaring with crip-shot, ganking ability with natural stride, troll unguent, and mending touch, and also gives shut down via interrupts.
-the B-surge is mostly for defense at the stand. Shuts down the Warriors on the other team via Blind + ward. Also keeps our warriors clean of blind with Draw.
-Backline (the monks) keep the red bars up
-Flag runner Does a whole bunch of stuff but mostly just keeps the flags coming in to the stand and defendes against ganks. They now have the role of party heals.

The main reason why warriors are used to be the offense, instead of necro or ele and such, is because they have huge DPS and also have the ability to cause much more pressure on monks and midliners. Simply put, the warrior is the best class at bringing down red bars.

Dark Paladin X · Nov 20, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29

well here's a thing on shock warriors:

Shock gives exhaustion, which can be big problem for warriors because of the low energy pool. Dragon slash build on the other hand, doesn't have energy problems because most of skills DON'T use energy. I already modify my build to have healing signet on it, but I'm still going to keep flail and enduring harmony so I can have FGJ last longer and spam D-slash more. After all, I could say Beowulf in the movie and in the epic is a Dragon-Slash spammer with his famous Hrunting.

Qdq Swi · Nov 20, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

well here's a thing on shock warriors:

Shock gives exhaustion, which can be big problem for warriors because of the low energy pool. Dragon slash build on the other hand, doesn't have energy problems because most of skills DON'T use energy. I already modify my build to have healing signet on it, but I'm still going to keep flail and enduring harmony so I can have FGJ last longer and spam D-slash more. After all, I could say Beowulf in the movie and in the epic is a Dragon-Slash spammer with his famous Hrunting.

.... 70+ posts of people telling you to do otherwise... you don't absorb much do you?

Dragon Slash builds arent supposed to use energy.. Hence why theyr called 'adren builds'. Exhaustion on wars isnt a terribly big deal... Most skills are adren based anyway... and shock used sparingly (as in when needed) is a great skill to have on your bar. Flail is not for PvP! I know about 25 people have told you this already, and have justified why so I dont see why your so persistant at being Wrong Enduring + FGJ = PvE... no need to say anymore.

btw.. that pic is rofl

thor thunder · Nov 20, 2007, 04:13 PM // 16:13

ohhh sry like i said i dont play much for get pvp lol last time i played pvp was on my femal warrior in low lvl battles for kicks and that was a wile ago.
Ok so whats a good ideal build for RA or AB where a group isnt organized?
I like shock axe i have used it before but i like running it with more knockdown, hows the skill "None Shall Pass!" ? its energy tight but great for multiple fleeing people? i think it has a long cool down tho il have to go look.
well thx guys you all my be trolling and blowing this wayyyy up but im still learning and thats what matters =P.

"Stormlord, you know that'd trolling,"
heh what new Stormlord=no life troll

dont beleieve me just look at his past comments in his profile lol its sad.

Qdq Swi · Nov 20, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor thunder

ohhh sry like i said i dont play much for get pvp lol last time i played pvp was on my femal warrior in low lvl battles for kicks and that was a wile ago.
Ok so whats a good ideal build for RA or AB where a group isnt organized?
I like shock axe i have used it before but i like running it with more knockdown, hows the skill "None Shall Pass!" ? its energy tight but great for multiple fleeing people? i think it has a long cool down tho il have to go look.
well thx guys you all my be trolling and blowing this wayyyy up but im still learning and thats what matters =P.

"Stormlord, you know that'd trolling,"
heh what new Stormlord=no life troll

dont beleieve me just look at his past comments in his profile lol its sad.

[skill]Bull's Strike[/skill] Shock + Bull's Strike = 2 KD... Need I say more?

Brian the Gladiator · Nov 20, 2007, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor thunder

ohhh sry like i said i dont play much for get pvp lol last time i played pvp was on my femal warrior in low lvl battles for kicks and that was a wile ago.
Ok so whats a good ideal build for RA or AB where a group isnt organized?
I like shock axe i have used it before but i like running it with more knockdown, hows the skill "None Shall Pass!" ? its energy tight but great for multiple fleeing people? i think it has a long cool down tho il have to go look.
well thx guys you all my be trolling and blowing this wayyyy up but im still learning and thats what matters =P.

"Stormlord, you know that'd trolling,"
heh what new Stormlord=no life troll

dont beleieve me just look at his past comments in his profile lol its sad.

Your question is very vague. What class do you want to play and what purpose do you want your build to be for?

Making your own RA and AB build that is actually GOOD isn't hard at all. You just need to think, "What is it that I want to accomplish with this build?" I will try to answer your question the best i can without actually knowing what class you want to be...

In AB, it is probably going to be capping shrines. With this said, you need a good running skill, damage, self heal, and some utility/shutdown. Now, look at the skills of the class that you want to be and add as many of these things into the bar as possible in the most affective way as possible. For some classes, it will be hard to fit all of these in so that is where you may have to rely on others to do some for you, like a monk instead of self healing or a ranger instead of utility/shutdown, ect.

In RA, you should look at the same concepts. You may not necessarily need the running skill unless your a someone who most people will run away from. Basically, you need a build that will accomplish a specific goal, whether it is shutting down healers, dealing a bunch of damage, shutting down the other teams damage, or keeping your team alive. Honestly, the best way to win in RA is to be a good monk IMHO because teams generally suck at everything, so as long as no one on your team dies, you can't lose...

Arkantos · Nov 20, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

dumb trolls are dumb.
derailed thread is derailed and closed.