Nov 18, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14
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#41
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: N/
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Two Words : Tough Love.
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Nov 18, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37
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#42
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: PST
Profession: W/
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Originally Posted by Magikarp
and regardless, im suprised that you're suprised. i've been a member of this site for like.. 2 weeks, and i think i might delete my accout because of how wretched the community is here.
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This gave me a good laugh. Just because you don't see people on the internet doesn't mean everyone's nice. If you think all sites have friendly communities, then you need a reality check. The real world doesn't work this way.
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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
Two Words : Tough Love.
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That's right.
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Nov 19, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02
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#43
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
This gave me a good laugh. Just because you don't see people on the internet doesn't mean everyone's nice. If you think all sites have friendly communities, then you need a reality check. The real world doesn't work this way.
That's right.
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lol most sites dont have nice communities, so wherever you got the idea i feel that way, i'll never know. the reality check is that its people like you who ruin the integrity of an entire websites social populus. the real world is full of hate and disgusting people, thats why associating with a cess pool of the very same terrible people is nothing but social, and even self downfall.
to break it down so people like Shadowfox could understand, tough love is to give constructive critisism and care for someone you have true feelings for, for their well-being. you guys are simply bashing someone, flaming, trolling, and then trying to justify it and look cool by high-fiving each other like some football jocks, just to boost the e-peen. get real kid, no one likes a flamer.
all and all, the OP probably learned little to nothing about something that was so easy to just simply explain, and thats the major reason why this community is an epic failure.
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Nov 19, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03
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#44
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Canada bro.
Profession: A/D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
Three Words : Lol Tough Love .
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fix'd
Dictionary.com:
Tough love= a mixture of toughness and warmth used in a relationship, esp. with an adolescent.
tough love
n. The use of strict disciplinary measures and limitations on freedoms or privileges, as by a parent or guardian, as a means of fostering responsibility and expressing care or concern.
>.> Wheres the warmth or Fostering of responsibility
OP put Frenzy and Dash/Sprint/Rush/Flurry in
Last edited by ensoriki; Nov 19, 2007 at 01:08 AM // 01:08..
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Nov 19, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36
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#45
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp
to break it down so people like Shadowfox could understand.
all and all, the OP probably learned little to nothing about something that was so easy to just simply explain, and thats the major reason why this community is an epic failure.
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And yet you flame Shadowfox?
an "Epic Failure" YOU don't HAVE to be a part of.
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Originally Posted by Magikarp
lol do you even know what flaming is Qdq? if its that offensive to someone who's so rude, and they feel like they deserve more respect, maybe they'll think twice next time being so rude to others first.
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Nop... Im a halfwit.
Last edited by Qdq Swi; Nov 19, 2007 at 06:43 PM // 18:43..
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Nov 19, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22
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#46
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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lol do you even know what flaming is Qdq? if its that offensive to someone who's so rude, and they feel like they deserve more respect, maybe they'll think twice next time being so rude to others first.
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Nov 19, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05
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#47
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Michigan, USA
Guild: Us Are Not [leet]
Profession: E/
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This is a pvp build and the fact of the matter is, this build probably DOES work in AB... but what doesn't? AB is the lowest and most BRAIN DEAD form of pvp of the bunch closely followed by Hero Battles.
At the moment, blocking is the current meta which means that D-slash is out... OUT!!!
why you may ask...
It takes 10 adrenaline to charge up and once you finally have enough to use it "blocked". and your entire chain is gone.
Currently you try to counter this with "For Great Justice!", Enduring Harmony, and Soldier's Strike. This fails because these skills are bad compared to the standard Shock Axe, Crip Slash, or Earth Shaker bars. You lose your cancel stance, deep wounding skill, and interrupt/knock down skill that warrior bars require to stay competitive in the current meta. There is a reason why warriors are using bull's strike, shock, Eviscerate, Gash, Crushing Blow, Disrupting chop, ect. These skills give the bar versatility, which is something that your skill bar just doesn't have.
I'm going to stop typing now because I'm tired of repeating myself in these warrior threads. Simply, learn why the meta is the way it is and learn game mechanics.
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Nov 19, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10
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#48
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Michigan, USA
Guild: Us Are Not [leet]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I gave this a try similar to the first one I posted.
Barbourouse Slice,Gash,Final Thrust,Dragon Slash,Healing Sig,Frenzy,Sprint and Res Sig.
This one worked really good goes BS>Gash> DS> FT or DS.BS>Gash>FT.
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Sorry for the double post but i have to comment on this...
Don't you see the missed steps in logic when comboing [skill=text]Barbarous Slice[/skill] and [skill=text]Frenzy[/skill]???
Barbarous Slice (when frenzy is up) will not inflict bleeding which means that gash can not deep wound. Bring sever artery instead.
Last edited by Brian the Gladiator; Nov 20, 2007 at 02:05 AM // 02:05..
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Nov 19, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54
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#49
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Mass
Guild: Cellestial Guard
Profession: W/E
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heres a build i like in PvP mabey it will help.
Enrageing charge (in Ab and general pvp a running stance is a MUST)
"For Great Justice!" (double adren...)
Frenzy (in pve the -33% speed from flail isnt bad, but in pvp...no)
Standing Slash (quick spike when D slash is down, +34 dmg for 6 adren!)
Sun Moon Slash (great for adren gain and double Vamp with vamp weapon)
Dragon Slash (E) (its +42 spamable.. need i say more)
"Sheilds Up!" (team support and it can cover the -40 from HS)
Healing Signet (self heal ALWAYS NEEDED!)
Stats
~ Tac 8+1
~ Str 8+1
~ Swd 12+1+3 or +2 if your a sissy and cant stay alive =P
Use full health besides runes and 1 absorption and it will cover for the -75.
Also you can use riposte instead of Standing Slash so you can counter other warriors its more effective that way beacause most warriors forget to bring defenses so use Sheilds up and Riposte+Dslash and hes good as dead. i know its not very anti block but outside of warriors cunning theres not much anti block stuff for warriors besides single anti block skills.
Wachya think?
Last edited by thor thunder; Nov 19, 2007 at 08:02 PM // 20:02..
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Nov 19, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00
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#50
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2007
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
heres a build i like in PvP mabey it will help.
Enrageing charge (in Ab and general pvp a running stance is a MUST)
"For Great Justice!" (double adren...)
Frenzy (in pve the -33% speed from flail isnt bad, but in pvp...no)
Standing Slash (quick spike when D slash is down, +34 dmg for 6 adren!)
Sun Moon Slash (great for adren gain and double Vamp with vamp weapon)
Dragon Slash (E) (its +42 spamable.. need i say more)
"Sheilds Up!" (team support and it can cover the -40 from HS)
Healing Signet (self heal ALWAYS NEEDED!)
Stats
~ Tac 8+1
~ Str 8+1
~ Swd 12+1+3 or +2 if your a sissy and cant stay alive =P
Use full health besides runes and 1 absorption and it will cover for the -75.
Wachya think?
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for RA its rubbish. The noobiest thing you can do in RA is not bring a rez sig.
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Nov 19, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08
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#51
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
Wachya think?
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Use a Crippling Slash build, use a non-Sword elite, or go Axe. Dragon Slash is simply not appropriate for PvP.
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Nov 19, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09
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#52
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wasting away again in Margaritaville
Guild: [HOTR]
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I absolutely love monking against dslashers in RA. One shield bash or guardian and they're useless for a long time.
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Nov 19, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16
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#53
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sardelec yelling at Tenshi
Guild: Angels Of Strife
Profession: E/
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I have started packing shield bash in PvP almost always know when I RA or sometimes even TA. It's great for pissing off sins.
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Nov 19, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26
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#54
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Mass
Guild: Cellestial Guard
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Qdq Swi
for RA its rubbish. The noobiest thing you can do in RA is not bring a rez sig.
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yess i know this! its for AB. I dont even bring my warrior in RA... EVER its a waist wayyyyy to many blocks and anti melle. Plus Necros own in pvp or i use my healing rit its fun with resto+weapon spells.
Yeah i know D-slash is = terrible in general pvp
(heck MELEE IN PvP = TERRIBLE)
but i was just trying to answer the OP and get some feed back from him.
Thanks tho
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Nov 19, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32
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#55
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
heck MELEE IN PvP = TERRIBLE
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Observe GvG or HA sometime. Warriors using good builds pwn face in PvP.
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Nov 19, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34
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#56
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Michigan, USA
Guild: Us Are Not [leet]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
heres a build i like in PvP mabey it will help.
Enrageing charge (in Ab and general pvp a running stance is a MUST)
"For Great Justice!" (double adren...)
Frenzy (in pve the -33% speed from flail isnt bad, but in pvp...no)
Standing Slash (quick spike when D slash is down, +34 dmg for 6 adren!)
Sun Moon Slash (great for adren gain and double Vamp with vamp weapon)
Dragon Slash (E) (its +42 spamable.. need i say more)
"Sheilds Up!" (team support and it can cover the -40 from HS)
Healing Signet (self heal ALWAYS NEEDED!)
Stats
~ Tac 8+1
~ Str 8+1
~ Swd 12+1+3 or +2 if your a sissy and cant stay alive =P
Use full health besides runes and 1 absorption and it will cover for the -75.
Also you can use riposte instead of Standing Slash so you can counter other warriors its more effective that way beacause most warriors forget to bring defenses so use Sheilds up and Riposte+Dslash and hes good as dead. i know its not very anti block but outside of warriors cunning theres not much anti block stuff for warriors besides single anti block skills.
Wachya think?
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So much fail in one post...
1) Don't use sup or major runes because health is your best friend. Get it as high as possible (that means 600hp or higher).
2)DON'T BRING RIPOSTE!!! omg, if a warrior is beating on you, than feal lucky he isn't hitting one of your, lower AL, team mates.
3)Your attributes don't even add up... you can put 2 more points into either strength or tactics.
4)BRING DEEP WOUND AND DONT MAKE ME SAY IT AGAIN!
5)You don't need shields up to cover the heal sig. Just don't cast it when you have a mob of people beating on you. Kite away and then use it.
6)Bring Rush instead of Enraging Charge so that you can cancel frenzy more.
7)D-slash is bad.
8)D-slash is bad.
9)D-slash is bad.
10)D-slash is bad.
The current meta is block... duh!
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Nov 19, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48
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#57
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Mass
Guild: Cellestial Guard
Profession: W/E
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oh ok im wrong im not a big pvp person.
so help me out
if you could pick 4 classes/people to run RA/GvG what precentige would be a melee class??
from what i have heard derv are veryyyy poor in pvp out side of a cookie cutter weary-meladru(spelling).
Assasins are even worse do to there endless squishyness???
Warriors... warriors are good in pvp but from what i have heard/seen they can be easly peplaced.
I know i would chose Monk/Rit (heals) Monk (Prot) para (shouter/dmg) and ele (dmg).
is this wrong? Considering 90% of general pvp now use Block it counts melee out 90% of the time?? yes they add presure but why bring a useless presure warrior when you can just bring a Lifestealing necro that will cut right thru there defense?
well w/e lesson learned
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Nov 19, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14
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#58
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Emo Goth Italics
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
from what i have heard derv are veryyyy poor in pvp out side of a cookie cutter weary-meladru(spelling).
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EDA is also ftw
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Assasins are even worse do to there endless squishyness???
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sins are easy to play.
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Warriors... warriors are good in pvp but from what i have heard/seen they can be easly peplaced.
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seen any GvG's lately?
gogo evis war!!
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I know i would chose Monk/Rit (heals) Monk (Prot) para (shouter/dmg) and ele (dmg).
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N/Rt is still around:P
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is this wrong? Considering 90% of general pvp now use Block it counts melee out 90% of the time?? yes they add presure but why bring a useless presure warrior when you can just bring a Lifestealing necro that will cut right thru there defense?
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WoOt for enchant and stance removal
also...dont forget ranger and paragon
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Nov 19, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24
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#59
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thor thunder
oh ok im wrong im not a big pvp person.
so help me out
if you could pick 4 classes/people to run RA/GvG what precentige would be a melee class??
from what i have heard derv are veryyyy poor in pvp out side of a cookie cutter weary-meladru(spelling).
Assasins are even worse do to there endless squishyness???
Warriors... warriors are good in pvp but from what i have heard/seen they can be easly peplaced.
I know i would chose Monk/Rit (heals) Monk (Prot) para (shouter/dmg) and ele (dmg).
is this wrong? Considering 90% of general pvp now use Block it counts melee out 90% of the time?? yes they add presure but why bring a useless presure warrior when you can just bring a Lifestealing necro that will cut right thru there defense?
well w/e lesson learned
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Blocking happens. Its not the end of the world and it doesn't make Warriors useless, it just means to switch target. I'd say most (good) GvG groups run at least two Warriors unless they're doing some crazy, specialized, unbalanced build. Seriously dude, hit B and observe some high-level PvP, and take a look at group dynamic, the structure of the group, and individual builds. Go go go
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Nov 19, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39
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#60
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(屮ಠ益ಠ)屮
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Guild: Guildless
Profession: Mo/
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Generally you'd have 2 melee, 3 midline + flagger, and 2 backline (i.e. monks) in GvG.
Unless the meta shifted to 3-monks, which I'm not aware of because I'm not active anymore.
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