Curse

Mushin · Nov 16, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

This is a letter addressed to the GW development team, all player are welcome to comment, thx. Mushin

Dear Guild Wars development Team

I am writing on behalf of my guild, questioning the recent update, in which the skill for profession "Ranger" has been modified, or more specificly, weakend.

The skill I am refering to is "Energized Wind" under Beast Mastery. My friends and I are loyal fan of GW and we play a lot with the ranger character, especially we are enlighted by the trapping skill of ranger and it's strategic application. Energized Wind is a key skill for a ranger specialized in trapping and enables him to survive under extreme dangerous enviroment. Previously, with lvl 6 in Beast Mastery a Ranger can create a spirit for 52 seconds. We are under shock to find out that after the recent update, it has been reduced to 9 seconds for lvl 6 beast mastery. I am sure GW team has a reason to update it that way. But i had a long discussion with my guild member and here are the reasons why we consider this update as inappropriate.

1. In my opinion, compared with its application in PvP, the real distinguishing strength of a Ranger lies in its strong PvE usage. By weakening some skill such as "energized wind", it penalized dedicated ranger player, who invested a lot of time and effort to acquire skill and study skill combination.

2. When a game developer starts to mess around with the preset skill, it creates uncertainty and confusion when we choose character. Even worse, my guild member start to question the reputation of ArenaNet as it almost seems like selling a product to a customer with promised quality but then changed it at discretion.

3. We suspect that the reason for the update is to add the difficulty for some ranger player to solo/duo trap in area such as underworld in order to raise quick cash. But here are my questions:
a) It seems you have already made the game harder or the reward less attractive for player that don’t take quests in underworld. But why penalize all ranger player for what some of us have done?
b) By doing the modification, you effectively reduced the degree of freedom in the game for player, as some of us sometimes want to play solo. Now we cannot … which is a disappointment. As being able to playing in team and solo are both important aspect of a game.
c) Can you blame player for trying to getting gold? Since the elite armour are so unbelievably expensive. I don’t like to farm but sometimes we just feel financially squeezed … I have seen player begging for gold in towns, is that a nice gaming enviroment?

With all those said, I am an absolute GW fan. But we are very disappointed with the recent skill update - as dedicated ranger player. Please take a second thought about those updates. Thank you for your effort in advance.

Best regards

Yours sincerely

Mushin Oni

Stormlord Alex · Nov 16, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

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Originally Posted by Mushin

1. Ranger is relatively weak in PvP

Everyone can stop reading here.

Full Metal X · Nov 16, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Everyone can stop reading here.

Funny because thats exactly what I did.

iridescentfyre · Nov 16, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by Mushin

1. I don't know how to play an effective Ranger in PvP so I assume it sucks.

Fixed for accuracy.

RPGmaniac · Nov 16, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by Mushin

1. Ranger is relatively weak in PvP

Wha? I didn't get that memo. They can do all sorts of things. They got damage (BA), condition spamming (Apply+Screaming shot+epidemic), interrupts/daze (BHA, concussion shot), great defensive stances,a reliable cripple, and a wonderful primary attribute allowing them to run interesting build combinations.

The people who beg in towns are lazy scammers looking to make a quick buck without trying at all to earn it. Also, there are other professions you can solo with

It seems like (though I'm not 100% sure since I don't HA much) it was nerfed because a lot of teams were taking advantage of it in HA.

mrmango · Nov 16, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

In before close.
No.

lennymon · Nov 16, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46

*grabs a torch*

Joker · Nov 16, 2007, 02:04 AM // 02:04

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Originally Posted by Mushin

1. Ranger is relatively weak in PvP.......

Cripshot + Apply. Enough said......

Kale Ironfist · Nov 16, 2007, 02:24 AM // 02:24

1. What iridescentfyre said
2. ArenaNet does the stuff, not PlayNC, so I don't know why you're bringing them up. PlayNC is just the distributor IIRC.
3. You suspect wrong.

horseradish · Nov 16, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Rangers weak in PvP?

what?

I killed an Ele today by interrupts and poison alone!

Weak.my.ass.

UnKn0wN415 · Nov 16, 2007, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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1. Ranger is relatively weak in PvP

AB they are probably one of the only class that can survive without dying...

EW is now at 15 that means (if my math is correct with 16 expert) you now have to wait till your energy is at at 5 to cast it...

since they change EW I am still trapping in UW with no problem...

AuraofMana · Nov 16, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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AB they are probably one of the only class that can survive without dying...

Redundant much >_>?

I think Monk ranks one :/

KZaske · Nov 16, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

*grabs some fire wood & some oil*

/not signed. But I do agree it was excessivly nerfed.

Washi · Nov 16, 2007, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by Mushin

1. Ranger is relatively weak in PvP

Just die, you do not deserve to play ranger.

MisterB · Nov 16, 2007, 08:55 AM // 08:55

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Originally Posted by Mushin

1. Ranger is relatively weak in PvP

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Everyone can stop reading here.

That was exactly my response as well. Nothing to see here.

Rampager · Nov 16, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05

seems im not the only one that stopped there

UnKn0wN415 · Nov 16, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by AuraofMana

Redundant much >_>?

I think Monk ranks one :/

let me rephrase what I said, since I wasnt thinking...

Both Monk and Ranger are #1 in staying alive in AB but players must know when to run when things get bad...

BTW close thread...

blue.rellik · Nov 16, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34

rangers suk cos dey have sukey damage. my war wil alwaiz bet a ranga cos i hit harda den ne prece ranga

4 life bruda

Karia Mirniman · Nov 16, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Mushin.

/agree

Another skill damaged for no known reason.

This forum is being ruined by unpleasantness; So many important threads about PVE issues are being ruined by idiocy and a lack of moderation.

kosh · Nov 16, 2007, 11:31 AM // 11:31

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

rangers suk cos dey have sukey damage. my war wil alwaiz bet a ranga cos i hit harda den ne prece ranga

4 life bruda

if you dont have anything good to say. then shut it. also spelling ftw.

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Originally Posted by Karia Mirniman

Mushin.

/agree

Another skill damaged for no known reason.

This forum is being ruined by unpleasantness; So many important threads about PVE issues are being ruined by idiocy and a lack of moderation.

im sorry that both of you feel this way. yes some nerf/buff to game affect the pve world and pvp.

ew was nerf becasue the the "overpower" spirit way that has been dominating pvp world for a while. so there is a reason behind this nerf. since gw came out it has always been an issue with nerf/buff with pve and pvp worlds. the problem is that this is this game was created, both worlds are affected by each other. did you know that favor (the thing that grant you entrance to uw/fow) used to be won in matches in hall of heroes? and that was was favor only the a specific area (I.E amrica, Europe etc) people have ask since the game came out, why does people that want to farm uw/fow are forced to wait and sit until their territory have favor...
it was an attempt by a.net to mix&match both worlds. it was a string that contacted both worlds to be more on the spot.
so yeah some changes will affect pve world more harshly , some the pvp world. there is no winning formula here in most cases.in pvp ew has caused many issues. basically to fuel rao you need ew.

again im sorry you feel this way and that nerf hurt you. but this the way this game works. there will always be updates. and there will always be some one less happy with these update. as for your comment about ranger not being strong in pvp. i think you got bashed enough they are one of the more powerful toons in pvp. dont just throw mindless comments like that. people will just ignore you after saying clueless things.

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