Curse

~ Dan ~ · Nov 08, 2007, 10:51 AM // 10:51

I sometimes do a dual farm of the complete place; D/x + hero bonder. I've done many runs without any problems. However when i tried today, i'd always die. The monk uses protective bond on me, which is recommended in the thread i got this build from (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...hp?t=10149012). However, with all the monk bonds on, the only things that trigger prot bond are e-surge and wurm attacks (note this is on normal mode). But today this wasn't the case

The grasps, were triggering prot bond on EVERY HIT. Know, that this in itself will not kill me.. only the monk will run out of energy because of prot bond triggering so often. So after about 30 secs i'd lose half my bonds, and so i'd die in a further 5 secs.

What's going on? I was D/A so fingers of chaos wouldn't effect me, however this wasn't anything to do with the problem anyway.

Did tombs' monsters suddenly get some random secret buff?

Please do not reply stating obvious things. I'm sorry i don't have screenshots, but all the bonds were on; conviction was on; VoS was on so e-surging wasn't triggering it. I was just watching my monk's energy bar the whole time i was fighting grasps and it went down ridiculously fast.

Has this happened to anyone else, or do you know what might've happened?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Screenshot attached. I was a bit late casting VoS as i was concentrating on getting a screenie, and so got hit by e-surges. But there were 2 scythes, meaning 2 e-surges, meaning -8 energy for my monk. You can clearly see half her bar is gone...

blue.rellik · Nov 08, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13

I think (though highly unlikely) that it was either "Fear Me" (though she should be far away) or maybe you didn't put the bonds in the right order?

I dunno really, I'm stumped if this has worked perfectly fine before

eximiis · Nov 08, 2007, 01:55 PM // 13:55

prot bond is not needed.

bring vital blessing instead so you have 700hp +.
this will make sure that victorious sweep almost always heals you

with Vow of silence up all the time, there is no way e-surge and the wurms hits you.

Succors is not needed

~ Dan ~ · Nov 08, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Eximiis, there's no need to tell me what is / isn't needed. The build works fine and has done.

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

I think (though highly unlikely) that it was either "Fear Me" (though she should be far away) or maybe you didn't put the bonds in the right order?

I dunno really, I'm stumped if this has worked perfectly fine before

I put the bonds on the same order i've always done, which is the order they are on the bar. Yet this has never happened before

She is also always well away from me, and i make sure i never kite near her to avoid things like "Fear me!"

Jebus · Nov 08, 2007, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Hmm, ever tried putting protective bond up AFTER life bond?

~ Dan ~ · Nov 08, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by Jebus

Hmm, ever tried putting protective bond up AFTER life bond?

Nope, but the thread i got this build from about 3 months ago stated the order shown in the screenshot. Since that time i have always done this order. As i said, this has never happened before, so it can't be things like bonds in wrong order and such.

I understand that maybe if i changed the way i did this, this "bug" or whatever may not happen. But i'm just interested in why this has happened, after the farming run has been working perfectly for months.

Abedeus · Nov 08, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

The order shout be Life Barrier -> Life Bond -> Protective Bond. And you shouldn't get hit by Surge at 11+ mysticism + 20% ench duration. Vow lasts more than it recharges and you must cast up to one spell between each VoS.

~ Dan ~ · Nov 08, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

The order shout be Life Barrier -> Life Bond -> Protective Bond. And you shouldn't get hit by Surge at 11+ mysticism + 20% ench duration. Vow lasts more than it recharges and you must cast up to one spell between each VoS.

Ok supposing changing the order meant they weren't triggering prot bond. Why then, have they not triggered it with every hit for 3 months using this same bonding order?

Also, i know about e-surge, and i don't get hit by it. Except when i'm recasting Heart of Fury, 3/4 + 1/4 sec VoS when monsters have godly reaction times to cast e-surge the exact moment VoS ends. The only reason in that screenshot i was hit by one, was because i was taking a screenshot.

STAB · Nov 08, 2007, 05:19 PM // 17:19

my guess is that anet is buffing the mob's AI scripts so that u cannot farm them. the same happened in nahpui. at first the lights would use nightmare weapon on themselves. It has now evolved to putting it on the warriors or rangers that patrol along them. so the trick that u go around a wall and attack the light (light = ritualist) doesn't work.

In one word: NERF

Abedeus · Nov 08, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39

Actually... With Weapon Spells being cast at rangers/warriors, it was an AI fix. People were mad that ritualists were casting Splinter Weapon on himself instead of offensive characters, they changed it so ritualists know what weapon are using his allies.