Curse

Str0b0 · Oct 13, 2007, 08:13 AM // 08:13

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Originally Posted by Darkside

I'm not sure why you *have to break it down again* my opinion won't change and no matter what you post. Want me to re-post what I already did as well? Lets find out how many times we can re-word our arguments.

I already understand what you're saying and I agree with it for the most part. I just don't think the skill down right sucks and needs to be flushed like a dead fish.

It had about as much use as a dead fish so why not? I have to keep re-iterating these things because people like you just don't get it.Ok well it is your opinion even if it is wrong. Cling to your happy little delusion all you like. Maybe someday I'll come visit you in crazy land where AoB is all "ub3r 1337 [email protected]" and you can show me what you're talking about.

Tyla · Oct 13, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by Darkside

I do get comments like that sometimes. Mostly being called a noob for running Lyssa.

being called a noob for running lyssa?whoa thats stupid...
doesnt stop AoB bring junk

Darkside · Oct 13, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

It had about as much use as a dead fish so why not? I have to keep re-iterating these things because people like you just don't get it.Ok well it is your opinion even if it is wrong. Cling to your happy little delusion all you like. Maybe someday I'll come visit you in crazy land where AoB is all "ub3r 1337 [email protected]" and you can show me what you're talking about.

Are you even reading any of my posts? When did I ever say AoB was 1337? I never claimed it was a great skill. All I said was that it was an "OK" skill and that I don't believe it's as bad as some of you make it out to be. I personally don't run AoB on any of my main builds. I do take a little comfort in knowing that I have annoyed you enough that you have to slip little insults into your post in some weak attempt to make yourself seem cool and/or smart. Go you...

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

being called a noob for running lyssa?whoa thats stupid...
doesnt stop AoB bring junk

Obviously, I don't really give a hoot what some idiot in a pug has to say about Lyssa when he obviously has no idea what he is talking about.

Str0b0 · Oct 13, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Ok whatever man. Me insulting you has nothing to do with my state of mind though. I'm trying to educate you because you still seem to be under the impression that AoB is useful for something. It isn't. Insulting you didn't work. Explaining it logically didn't work. I honestly don't know what else to do. you just seem stubbornly insistent on being wrong and that sort of mentality just boggles my mind.

ensoriki · Oct 13, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

avatar of BAlthazar.
For whatever to whatever seconds.
Your attacks deal holy damage you have +40 armor, you move 33% faster
and you do +5-25 more damage to foes NOT using skills (SUCKS FOR YOU KITERS!)

DeXyre · Oct 13, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by Darkside

I do get comments like that sometimes. Mostly being called a noob for running Lyssa.

It's rare, but sometimes people actually notice you're taking large chucks of those red bars

Luckily my heroes and henchmen don't complain about the avatar of my choice (mostly Lyssa, and depending on the area I'm in I take out Dwayna or Melandru).

I always find something more useful than Balthazar to put in my elite slot really...

MBP · Oct 13, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

AoB is in need of a buff...until then it will continue to suck horribly.

xhappy feetx · Oct 14, 2007, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10204939

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10204521

Alot of threads i see, containing the skill Avatar Of Balthazar quickly turn into a sole debate of that skill. This is an attempt from me to gather all the points for / against that people wish to make into one thread.

So:

Discuss [skill]Avatar Of Balthazar[/skill] !!

AoB is decent for PvP???????? I'm Lost.............

its a good general elite to carry in PvE b/c the +40 and the speed.........

rabwatt · Oct 14, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Personally I found AoB perfect for doing lazy runs to the Hidden Treasure/Treasure Chest/Do Not Touch.

Press one button and run

milkflopance · Oct 14, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

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Originally Posted by xhappy feetx

AoB is decent for PvP???????? I'm Lost.............

its a good general elite to carry in PvE b/c the +40 and the speed.........

Id rather just take conviction and a useful elite, like reaper's sweep.

~ Dan ~ · Oct 14, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

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Originally Posted by xhappy feetx

AoB is decent for PvP???????? I'm Lost.............

its a good general elite to carry in PvE b/c the +40 and the speed.........

Make sure your posts are relevant to what you quoted. Nowhere in what i quoted did i say AoB in PvP was good. Nowhere. I don't even agree with half of those quotes, it was just setting up the debate for ya.

boarderx · Oct 15, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by rabwatt

Personally I found AoB perfect for doing lazy runs to the Hidden Treasure/Treasure Chest/Do Not Touch.

Press one button and run

lol, thats when i use AoB the most, for the lazy runs in the easy ares for the free chests. 1 click and go!

BlackSephir · Oct 15, 2007, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Meh, I take Devona with her Charge! for that >_>
And it gives speed boost to all party members!
Conclusion
Devona > Charge! > AoB

rabwatt · Oct 15, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26

charge does not last the whole duration to get the chest and you dont need the rest of the party for the easy chests

(Im not saying Aob is any good... just there are just a few occasions where it has a use)

MBP · Oct 16, 2007, 01:06 AM // 01:06

i just got booted from a "Temple of the Damned" group for running Heart of Holy Flame + Mel instead of AoB lol PUGS are funny.

draxynnic · Oct 16, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by Darkside

Are you even reading any of my posts? When did I ever say AoB was 1337? I never claimed it was a great skill. All I said was that it was an "OK" skill and that I don't believe it's as bad as some of you make it out to be. I personally don't run AoB on any of my main builds. I do take a little comfort in knowing that I have annoyed you enough that you have to slip little insults into your post in some weak attempt to make yourself seem cool and/or smart. Go you...

I said it on the first page. They're just here to strawman everyone who even seems to be defending it, call them noobs, and beat the strawman down. Give up.

Speedy, however: even I'd disagree with that. My personal hierarchy of avatars is Dwayna and Lyssa more or less tied, Melandru, Balthazar. And I generally run EDA over any of them

.

Steps_Descending · Oct 16, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Could someone confirm me this :
A friend told me Balthy was giving 33% speed to ANYTHING. Meaning running, attack (I could believe this) but also casting.
Could someoen confir/infirm this for me.

AlienFromBeyond · Oct 16, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

You may want to look up gullible in the dictionary.

Coloneh · Oct 16, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

your friend is full of bs. dont spread rumors that you can easily test.

iridescentfyre · Oct 16, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58

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Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

Could someone confirm me this :
A friend told me Balthy was giving 33% speed to ANYTHING. Meaning running, attack (I could believe this) but also casting.
Could someoen confir/infirm this for me.

You could always ...ya know... check. Its not like that assertion is hard to test within about 5 minutes.