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Old Nov 13, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59   #1
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Default been mulling over this idea(pvp)

would utilizing these two skills:
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill]

produce any spectacular effect?
my attempt here looks relatively promising.

any ideas/opinions/testers?(cant get on gw for a while, a field test from someone would own)
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #2
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Idea: Try Rapid Fire instead of Read The Wind. Once your target is dazed, Rapid Fire will let you hit more times giving you a better chance of interupting with the daze.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15   #3
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You can drop a point from WS and add it to Prot, for what it's worth...
54 Heal from MTouch ftw
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18   #4
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QQ builds r gud.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48   #5
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Idea: Try Rapid Fire instead of Read The Wind. Once your target is dazed, Rapid Fire will let you hit more times giving you a better chance of interupting with the daze.
i dotn see why not.

but, 33 ias by itself is imo worse than comparable +damage and 2x move speed
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52   #6
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Or you could not run bad skills and take Apply.
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04   #7
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Well, if you want to focus on shutting someone down with the daze, I would go for Rapid Fire over Read the Wind. While you will probably lose a little bit of damage, more arrows gives more chances for interupts off the daze.

If you're going for damage, then go for Apply Poison as the degen will definitely be better than the little bit of extra damage from Read the Wind.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27   #8
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Jaws is right, the point of the short bow isnt short arc or low flight time, it's the fact that when you are running a daze or incenidary build you want as many interrupts as you can get in a short period of time. The 2 second refire rate isn't fast enough in and of itsef to guarantee a lockdown especially on a monk. Use rapid fire for the best bang/buck ias.
When you are running an interrupt centered build often damage is almost completely immaterial. It's about making your teamates take less heat or give them the opportunity to spike out a critical opponent. Think of yourself as fulfilling both prot and lockdown.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #9
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Or you could not run bad skills and take Apply.
[skill]prepared shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]concussion shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
or you could have energy. applys e cost is going to add up bad, in my opinion.

and i like how you said bad skills and you changed out one skill from mine.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29   #10
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or you could have energy. applys e cost is going to add up bad, in my opinion.

and i like how you said bad skills and you changed out one skill from mine.
Yeah, what the hell is expertise, and why do 99% of rangers in GvG have apply and have 0 energy problems.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29   #11
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You have Expertise and Prepshot. If you can't handle 15e(~7e) every 24 seconds with that, you fail.
And I like how you use commas in the wrong places.

As a side note, if you want an interrupt bitch then Magebane is better now.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30   #12
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Yeah, what the hell is expertise, and why do 99% of rangers in GvG have apply and have 0 energy problems.
and why do they run one of 2 10e attacks, when i'm runnign a 25e one. i severely doubt you looked at the build.

commas separate out a clause, by the way.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #13
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You have Expertise and Prepshot. If you can't handle 15e(~7e) every 24 seconds with that, you fail.
And I like how you use commas in the wrong places.

As a side note, if you want an interrupt bitch then Magebane is better now.
i'd rather have dazed. dazed means any frontline or midline with a weapon can contribute to shutdown.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36   #14
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Draw Conditions. Dismiss Condition (seeing as you dont want to take Apply). Restore Condition. Mending Touch.
All pretty common.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37   #15
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Draw Conditions. Dismiss Condition (seeing as you dont want to take Apply). Restore Condition. Mending Touch.
All pretty common.
other team members that cause conditions.
pretty common too.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41   #16
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so i herd Blind and DW as cover conditions are gud.....
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44   #17
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so i herd Blind and DW as cover conditions are gud.....
i heard the same about disease, poison, crippled, and bleeding.

i'd use this in seriously dedicated conditions build.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45   #18
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Smoke Trap.
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52   #19
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Smoke Trap.
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i like my monks dazed more than 1/2 of the time.
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You can't consistantly keep both monks dazed for a decent duration using an interrupt.
Smoke Trap also allows you to do more than just spam Conc Shot.
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