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Old Mar 17, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41   #1
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Question Can you ppl help me please?

Hi all!

I've just registered myself here for a question:
I'm going to buy me second expansion of guildwars.
But i've a BIIG problem
i don't know what:
- Factions*
or
- Eotn**

Nightfall en Prop i already have

What do you ppl prefer?

*i wanna buy factions for the Assasins chars and the Drok's Troll Farm --> my friend has an Assasin and haven't play yet far so we can do Factions together

**but i wanna buy also Eotn for the Norn ranks i've seen that if you're wore that titel you have +xxx max hp That's awesome for my Dervish! (Jsp Of Doom)

So again:
What do you prefer?

Grtzzz,
Jsp

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Old Mar 17, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #2
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Factions...simply for the two new professions.

And the Norn Title only adds health in a small section of the game.

Edit: and for the post below me, Ursan is lame. Don't buy a game for a lame skill.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47   #3
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Buy EoTN, because of Ursan Blessing. You will be discriminated in high-end PvE if you don´t have this skill (sadly)
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54   #4
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Buy EoTN, because of Ursan Blessing. You will be discriminated in high-end PvE if you don´t have this skill (sadly)
Like he said, get EOTN. It has a lot of great PvE skills like UB.

With all these nerfing going on to balance PvP, classes like mesmers have to rely more and more on PvE skills to stay viable in HM PvE and to keep up with the other classes like necros (which ANet just loves to buff again and again).
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #5
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I would say Nightfall.
From all three, From good to best
1. Prophecies
2. NIghtfall
3. Nightfall
4. EOTN

By the way, if you go to TARGET you can get EOTN for $9.99
in some online stores you can get factions like for $15.00
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56   #6
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I would say Nightfall.
From all three, From good to best
1. Prophecies
2. NIghtfall
3. Nightfall
4. EOTN
He has a Dervish...usually a good indication that he has Nightfall.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56   #7
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I would say Nightfall.
From all three, From good to best
1. Prophecies
2. NIghtfall
3. Nightfall
4. EOTN

By the way, if you go to TARGET you can get EOTN for $9.99
2 TimesNightfall?
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #8
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Like he said, get EOTN. It has a lot of great PvE skills like UB.

With all these nerfing going on to balance PvP, classes like mesmers have to rely more and more on PvE skills to stay viable in HM PvE and to keep up with the other classes like necros (which ANet just loves to buff again and again).
Do you have to spout Anti-PvP Propaganda everywhere? Just to inform you, there were more buff in past balances than nerfs.

And my adivce, learn about the professions, and don't let people force you into using PvE skills, you don't need them, as a Mesmer myself I know that. And don't get sucked into the PvEr vs PvPer QQing, there are no such things as these groups in reality.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09   #9
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Since you have Prophecies and Nightfall, Factions is the next step to take. The content in Factions blows away Eye of The North, hands down.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17   #10
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Do you have to spout Anti-PvP Propaganda everywhere? Just to inform you, there were more buff in past balances than nerfs.
I am not anti-pvp. But ask most people about PvE mesmers and they would tell you that mesmers do well in PvP but suck in PvE. Ever wonder why there is some truth in that?

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And my adivce, learn about the professions, and don't let people force you into using PvE skills, you don't need them, as a Mesmer myself I know that. And don't get sucked into the PvEr vs PvPer QQing, there are no such things as these groups in reality.
You also said, you dont PvE much and you mostly PvP. PvE is a very different environment from PvP nowadays, you should know that.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26   #11
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I am not anti-pvp. But ask most people about PvE mesmers and they would tell you that mesmers do well in PvP but suck in PvE. Ever wonder why there is some truth in that?

You also said, you dont PvE much and you mostly PvP. PvE is a very different environment from PvP nowadays, you should know that.
Ok, your proof that I don't PvE much? Since nearly all PvPers do actually PvE (which is why it's wrong to refer to totally segmented groups)
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #12
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Imo Factions

2 new profs to play, and you get to AB
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #13
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Ok, your proof that I don't PvE much? Since nearly all PvPers do actually PvE (which is why it's wrong to refer to totally segmented groups)
You should talk about in this thread then:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10129170

...alot of people there feel that the PvE mesmers have been nerfed into a barely-viable state.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #14
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...alot of people there feel that the PvE mesmers have been nerfed into a barely-viable state.
Have done already. As I said, I don't want A-net to "Improve Mesmers in PvE" since it is not needed (regardless of what a few hardcore PvE QQs say) and runs the risk of ruining that is good about Mesmers.

Ok, so Mesmer ain't good in DoA, or Urgoz or Deep. What does that matter when you think about how badly those elite missions were designed, no good people would want to play in them.

And please don't promote the use of PvE Skills, it encourages not learning the profession and button mashing Ursan.

There is nothing else worth saying (you wouldn't understand, or you'd deny it)
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40   #15
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Factions for Rits. ^^
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #16
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Oh, and a few other pointers:

- Tanking generally fails, as does Healing. GW is different from Sterotypical MMOs in this respect. Protection or Hybrids make the best monk builds, and Warriors can do the highest damage in the game, us it.

- Learn to play atleast One well balanced core profession,(Warrior/Monk/Elementalist/Ranger/Mesmer) as best you can, and I don't just mean PvE wise.

- It's optional due to preference, but dispite what so called "PvErs" will tell you, knowing how to play PvP will make you good at the game.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #17
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core profession,(Warrior/Monk/Elementalist/Ranger/Mesmer)
One, two, three, four, five... ?

Anyway, Factions for Rits & Assassins.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13   #18
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One, two, three, four, five... ?

Anyway, Factions for Rits & Assassins.
I said WELL BALANCED CORE PROFESSION (Necromancers are not well balanced.)

I wouldn't recommend Rt or A since they are both horribly balanced and won't help you.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23   #19
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I wouldn't recommend Rt or A since they are both horribly balanced and won't help you.
You just said Rits suck...

You fail for that comment.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #20
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You just said Rits suck...

You fail for that comment.
Please point out where I said Rits "Suck".

I said they were "Horribly Balanced", not that they suck..... understand?
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