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My Lipgloss is Cool · Mar 19, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by teotuf

you are assuming that they have the same droprate for ectos... however, that's not true. about 1 in every 15 aatxes drop an ecto, about 1 in every 40 smites drop an ecto. someone tested the drop rates of smites and aatxes before, in a duo run aatxe drop 52% of the ectos or soemthing, and smites 48%

as for solo builds that can do both... i'm sorry, i just don't think any of the solo ones you can find on pvxwiki or here are profit... challenge and fun? sure, farming for profit? waaaaayyy too slow

out of the solo UW builds that are shown here or on pvxbuilds, i'd say that the donut tzar's is the most profitable one.

[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill]Suffering[/skill]Optional[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill][skill]Essence Bond[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill]

That can farm for profit rather than challenge.

teotuf · Mar 19, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

[skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill]Suffering[/skill]Optional[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill][skill]Essence Bond[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill]

That can farm for profit rather than challenge.

unless i'm seriously inept, i don't think it's possible to consistantly use that to do the aatxes and smite run in less than 30 min. and considering most of the smites only runs take around 10-15 min, i don't see a 30min+ aatxes and smites run as "profitable"

My Lipgloss is Cool · Mar 19, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

Avoiding coldfire patrols, and with spirit bond in the optional, you can do it in 20 minutes.

Fuzzy Taco · Mar 19, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29

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Originally Posted by teotuf

unless i'm seriously inept, i don't think it's possible to consistantly use that to do the aatxes and smite run in less than 30 min. and considering most of the smites only runs take around 10-15 min, i don't see a 30min+ aatxes and smites run as "profitable"

it's insanely easy to do smite runs in 20 mins or less with a 55/SS necro. as Lipgloss said, skip those annoying coldfires, aggro a couple small groups together, and don't suck and you can easily hit the 19 minute mark for a full smite run. those 30 min run times are from bad pulls, killing unneecessary groups (Coldfires are worthless tbh) and being overcautious.

T1Cybernetic · Mar 19, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by My Lipgloss is Cool

Avoiding coldfire patrols, and with spirit bond in the optional, you can do it in 20 minutes.

I can confirm that bar

i used to do it ~30 mins if i miss the coldfires and stop being idle

plus if you take out mending

i dont like it

spirit bond and heal breeze are all you need, stick pain inverter or something crazy in that spare slot too...

cerb · Mar 19, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

2-men, all the way. For farming, I would suggest Chamber/Unwanted Guests/Escort of Souls/Ice King (See The Art of Underworld -> videos -> First 4 Quests for video with 55/SS). You can do those in about 40 minutes easily (We can do 30 but we've done it a million times).

You can also add Chaos Plains to that for yet even more ectos. Chaos Planes alone should take about 15-20 minutes. Bone Pits and Spawning Pools are doable too, but they tend to take much more time than the rest. Bone Pits aren't hard with a constant Spellbreaker but can be quite annoying due to AI, out of sight (which can be very weird, I've had times where I could hit a monster that couldn't hit me), treshers hex/foc necro, patrols (dangerous if you don't know bone pits well), etc. As for Spawning Pools, you cannot aggro too many groups at once if Charged Blacknesses are present (gogo shock), and they won't follow for long because of the Tar effect (impossible to make huge groups of dryders).

Also, Ice King = 18 dryders, which also tend to mean good chance for ectos. It is quite common to get 1-2 ectos by doing it (which only takes like 2:30 minutes at most).

I'm pretty sure you could do Unwanted Guests+Escort of Souls+Ice King+Chaos Planes in about 1:15 even if you are unexperienced.

Resident · Mar 19, 2008, 04:47 AM // 04:47

*Bows to Cerb*
Well, the ONE has spoken, close the thread

In fact i did solo farm for profit, now i do duo farm for fun.

cerb · Mar 19, 2008, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Most people do the simple-ish and naive assumption that solo = more profit as you don't split drops. However, for the duration of one solo run, you can clear more quests/areas with 2-men, and do it twice which obviously means more ectos. If you average 8 ectos / 2 hours with a solo run, this should net 8-12 ectos / 2 hours, and you can even do it in Hard Mode without adding that much more time. If you have two accounts and two computers, have one smite, that will definately get you a FoW armor very fast.

The decision is up to you, and it will depend on which character you have. If you have an ele and no monk, you might as well go solo since on a short time span, you will get enough ectos for FoW faster than if you took the time to start/level a monk and go FoW. If you have both but no monk/necro friend who could play with you (either as smite, 600 or SS), then obviously go with ele. This also applies if you have neither character, should you start one, decide which with that in mind. Any other class solos too slowly.