Curse

Missmelady · Jan 10, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Alright was not 100% sure where to post this because it works in all 3 campaigns as well as eotn expansion.

First off I am on a differnt computer so I dont have access to my Gw to get the builds that I use so I will post them when i get home tonight after work.

Team is as follows And requires 1 or 2 people depending on the area. I will post all 8 builds then I will give u a break down for each area of the game.

1. Person one- Ursan 1 I roll as a mo/mes I carry ursan, Arcane echo, Ebon vanguard assasin, rest of the bar are reses
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2. Person one hero 1- n/rt Spirit transer, mend body and soul, spirit light, Preservation, protective was kaolai, weapon of warding, recovery, life. Attris are 12 restoration 12 soul reaping.
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3. Person one hero 2- n/rt Spirit transfer, Mend body and soul, Spirit light, Spirit light weapon, protective was kaolai, weapon of warding, shelter, union. 8 soul reaping, 10 communing, 12 restoration.
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4. Person one hero 3- Mo/mes Lod, Sig of rejuv, Dwaynas kiss, Prot Spirit, Healing ribbon, Rebirth, Dismiss condition, remove hex. Attrist are 13 healing 10 prot 10 divine, That is with runes.
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5. Person 2- Ursan 2. They roll as a r/me with arcane echo, ebon vanguard assasin, savage shot, distracting shot, reses.

6. Person 2 hero 1- p/w Song of Restoration, Ballad of restoration, aria of restoration, signet of synergy, zealous anthem, shields up, watch yourself, signet of return. Attris are 8 tactics, 12 motivation, 10 leadership.
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7. Person 2 her0 2- n/mo Flesh Golem, Bone horror, shambling horror, bloot ritual, blood of the master, healing seed, renew life.
Attris. death magic 12, healing prayers 10, blood magic 2, soul reaping 8
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8. Person 2 hero 3- n/mes Spiteful spirit, reckless haste, enfeebling blood, blood ritual, rip enchantment, signet of lost souls, res chant.
Attris. - 12 curses, soul reaping 11, healing prayers 6, blood magic 2
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EDIT: Added the template codes for the builds.

4 people party max.
Solo with heros- Ursan, Ss, MM, nec/rt 2nd rt bar
Buddy on- 2 ursan 1 mm 1 nec/rt
6 person group your self, 1 ursan, mm, ss, nec/rt, monk hero, earth ele hero
6 Person group 2 ursan, 2 nec/rt, mm, ss
8 person group your self 1 ursan, nec/rtm nec/rt, mm, monk hero, earth hero, fire ele hero, I usually bring devona or the dervish if i am in elona.
8 person group Full team party from above

Speed- This build is all about doing vanquisher and missions as fast as possible. With the expierence vanquishing with these in cantha, elona, and tyria I have had very little trouble completing all zones in under 40 minutes each zone. That is to say I have and still are killing zones with 400+ guys in under 40 minutes.

How to run it. Person with the healers needs to flag them back aggro the group once the group has been aggroed you can un flag your heros. I have found that once in a fight you pretty much cant die... I have tried to let them kill me by standing there and i rarly take dmg. Needless to say I have had 50+ skree and heket on my party and not had a single party member die. Pretty easy and basic way to get the vanq title and gaurdian title without much effort. Make sure you have the runes and armor inscriptions for your heros. Makes life 100 times easier.

I have never actually looked at sabs necro build so I dont know if my 2 are the same but yes 2 necs + a monk+ para = amazing healing. Dmg out put is mad crazy even when not in ursan form. I actually got inspired for the 2 nec/rts from spirit way in Ha.

Build thanks to Pro Hiberna{ftw} and aspecial thanks to Aria Of the Apocalypse{AA} and Crazyman Ofdoom (lag) for there testing support.

In game name Glyph of healing if you want me to do some runs with you.

Coloneh · Jan 10, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

ursan... lod... 1 monk... i can see this failing already

MercenaryKnight · Jan 10, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

If the paragon is a motivation setup or something, then it could probably work. Also I am assuming the n/rts will probably have a backup heal or 2 to help out at times.

Not everything needs a 2 monk build. Look at all the people who choose to defy that and go out with 8 warriors/ 8 mesmer/ 8 paragons/ whatever and go clear fow or some other places.

lundis · Jan 10, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

That looks interesting, though ursan is kinda booring

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

ursan... lod... 1 monk... i can see this failing already

1 lod + 2 N/Rt + Para -> Probably very nice healing..

You don't need many monks, I did a HM mission(8-man) today with my guildies without any monks at all, just sabs N/Rt healer.. We did very well.

Alex Morningstar · Jan 10, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

ursan... lod... 1 monk... i can see this failing already

N/Rts can make very nice healers. Paragon's can make very nice addition with an LoD healer. Ritualists have a healing attribute.

Not every group needs 2 monks or they fail. You could at least wait to see what their builds are before pulling out the "omg, fail."

Div · Jan 10, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

So this is sabway with ursans? O Ok.

Alex Morningstar · Jan 10, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

So this is sabway with ursans? O Ok.

It does look suspiciously like Sabway.

distilledwill · Jan 10, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Looks like the beginnings of the full necro team that me and my brother are working on.
Im looking forward to seeing the builds.

CrazyManOfDoom · Jan 11, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

oh noes! he has posted our secret!! :P

i lurvs the build...it does work well...pretty much the only way i've been able to get anything at all vanquished

Coloneh · Jan 11, 2008, 04:11 AM // 04:11

who called it!?........
"coloneh did.....

thats right! me!

CrazyManOfDoom · Jan 11, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24

what did u call? u said it fails...b4 even trying nub. and fyi..it doesn't fail

Missmelady · Jan 11, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

who called it!?........
"coloneh did.....

thats right! me!

Coloneh have you even tried running it yet? Because if you have and if you have died then I must say congrats. I could have sworn that this build was idiot proof but u proved me wrong. Btw this build also works for all of domain of anguish.

GG. Be a nub and post random crap again to just get ur post rating up.

MercenaryKnight · Jan 11, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

This build seems a bit crazy on healing, you effectively have 4 dedicated healers out of an 8man team. Your only damage output comes from the ss necro, mm and ursans pretty much.

In my opinion it seems like the paragon could be replaced for something with a bit more damage since it seems kind of overkill.

Seems like an addition of icy veins, rising bile etc. Skills that cause damage on death would atleast boost the damage output a bit.

I am not saying it won't work, just that the healers are overkill.

A way to increase some damage would be.

Healers, 2 n/rts, 1 monk (probably drop spirit light weapon otherwise heroes will cast it when someone is under weapon of warding and it just doesn't heal enough)
humans, ursan whatever
Necro minion bomber (probably just copy sabs build here because aegis could help party as well as bring protective spirit)
SS necro (could bring ancestor's rage to spam too)
Icy Veins (E) rising bile, putrid bile for aoe bombs once an enemy goes down.

The paragon seems under used if your going to have spirit lights, preservations and other things up as well. Probably could drop lod on the monk for woh or perhaps more of a passive prot role.

That's just my take on this since it seems like 4 healers is a bit too much.

Alex Morningstar · Jan 11, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

who called it!?........
"coloneh did.....

thats right! me!

Do you ever actually contribute anything to the forum conversation other than the usual "fail", "noob", <insert insult of the moment here>?

I know it sounds like flaming, but seriously, do you?

moko · Jan 11, 2008, 07:40 AM // 07:40

flesh golem is bad.

you got 2 ursans; use a jagged bomber.

skitz · Jan 11, 2008, 11:12 AM // 11:12

Itd be real nice if someone could post the template coad to this. thanks whoever can do it

Turbobusa · Jan 11, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58

So every combination of a mm and a n/rt is sabway now?

shinslw · Jan 13, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

ursan... lod... 1 monk... i can see this failing already

Typical reply from someone who rely too much on monks.

I bet you know nothing much about ritualist skills. N/Rt are very powerful healers.

Mystique Huntress · Jan 13, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

I barely use a monk when I pve now, N/Rt does me just fine. If I'm vanquishing with a friend then they bring one too, does absolute wonders

Coloneh · Jan 13, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinslw

Typical reply from someone who rely too much on monks.

I bet you know nothing much about ritualist skills. N/Rt are very powerful healers.

N/Rt's are great at HEALING, but theyr not monks. A monks dont just HEAL. N/Rts dont carry prot, they cant remove conditions, they cant remove hexes.
your spending to many character slots on trying to keep your team alive. N/Rt's are good in moderation and LoD is just nerfed into oblivion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Morningstar

Do you ever actually contribute anything to the forum conversation other than the usual "fail", "noob", <insert insult of the moment here>?

I know it sounds like flaming, but seriously, do you?

of course not, what fun would that be...

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

GG. Be a nub and post random crap again to just get ur post rating up.