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0siris · Feb 11, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

I've been trying to figure out a Paragon solo UW smite build recently...and so far I've come up with this. This is only a concept build, unconfirmed and highly arguable.

[skill]Vengeful was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Weapon of Shadow[/skill][skill]Blind Was Mingson[/skill] [skill]Bladeturn Refrain[/skill][skill]"Stand Your Ground!"[/skill][skill]"Never Surrender!"[/skill][skill]"Fall Back!"[/skill]

P/Rt
12+3+1 Command, (12+2+1 would work as well I think)
12 Restoration
3+2 Leadership

Centurions Insignas on Gloves and Boots, Survivor on chest and leggings, 2 vitae runes and a major vigor net me a total of 515 hit points.

A +5 energy weapon would be nice, and in an extreme scenario, I would recommend a +15/-1 wand/off hand.

Run Down:

Obviously this build is an attempt to spin off from the W/Rt UW Smite build. The only problem being that the warrior has Bonetti's Defense as energy management...unfortunately the paragon doesn't have that luxury. The only reason we need the energy is to be able to defeat the Grasping Darknesses in the first chamber of the underworld. Their "Fear Me!" spam can obviously be devastating to any single energy reliant target. Thankfully, "Fear Me!" is an adrenaline skill, which we can prevent the use of, as long as we can keep the target blinded. This is where Weapon of Shadow and Blind Was Mingson come into play

I haven't had the chance to play around with this build yet, as I've just now completed compiling it. So if any of you would be willing to give it a spin, feel free to post back here and let us know how it went

My main worry is the energy management...

If you have any suggestions please feel free to post them!

Deathless Anthem · Feb 11, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

stand your ground is a waste, because both graspings and smites do slashing(I think) and this build has no Emanagement and spamming 5e skills with 2 energy regen will bring you to 0e rather quickly, causing you death

bart123 · Feb 11, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

I thought of something similar but i tried it and the E-managment is crap even with a zealous weapon. I'd already bought all my para gear like Q9 voltaic and shit and was hoping to regain my spendings by smite farming with her...
So if anyone comes up with a way to get past these grasps im forever gratefull.

max_rulez · Feb 11, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

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Originally Posted by 0siris

P/Rt
12+3+1 Command, (12+2+1 would work as well I think)
12 Restoration
6+2 Leadership

These arent possible. You only have 200 attributes which means you can have 12 12 and 3 but not 12 12 and 6

0siris · Feb 11, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by max_rulez

These arent possible. You only have 200 attributes which means you can have 12 12 and 3 but not 12 12 and 6

you're right,

I meant

12+3+1
12
3+2

fixed

masta_yoda · Feb 11, 2008, 10:13 AM // 10:13

u only got 1 running skills and no emanage , with no manage , u ll probably only be able to pull off one vwk vs grasps, unless u bring a +5/20%hsr wand and 20/20 offhand ....u can probably hit vwk when it recharges fast with 5e

ReZDoGG · Feb 11, 2008, 10:52 AM // 10:52

I've also tried making a P/Rt build to farm smites, once upon a time ago... and energy management is the only problem with the build. W/Rt and Rt/W works well because of Bonettis Defense, but other professions with same VwK concept have energy problems with graspings. Para's themselves don't have any skills that are really useful for farming, which is a big draw back for creating farming builds for them.

The only somewhat effective build that i made that can kill graspings with a para... was using P/W with Gladz Defense, Prot Defense, Bonetti's, Disciplined, Healing Sig, Dwarven Stability, and whatever else. It killed Graspings no problem, but when it came to smites, it was failure. Only way to farm UW with Para would be to dual with a Monk Hero with the usual Retribution and Holy Wrath. Basically just setting up a para with 600hp and 15AL armor and use Spirit Bond and such... Should work, but never tried it. But any profession can be used to dual with a monk.

Pyro maniac · Feb 11, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by 0siris

Thankfully, "Fear Me!" is an adrenaline skill, which we can prevent the use of, as long as we can keep the target blinded. This is where Weapon of Shadow and Blind Was Mingson come into play

How do you kill the graspings then .. ?

as for a build, I would suggest some auto-attacker with heavy defense and Blazing Finale ..

Avatar Exico · Feb 12, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35

I agree with most of these guys, you need some sort of energy management would help alot with those skills.

Cherng Butter · Feb 12, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38

If they're blind, then how will they be taking damage from VwK?

placebo overdose · Feb 12, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

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Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

If they're blind, then how will they be taking damage from VwK?

to this i say lawl QFT

Hyprodimus Prime · Feb 12, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

I guess its a

Antithesis · Feb 12, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

If they're blind, then how will they be taking damage from VwK?

My guess is its used when VwK is down. I've used [skill=text]Weapon of Shadow[/skill] in the past with a VwK Warrior outside Wajjun Bazaar.

0siris · Feb 12, 2008, 08:05 AM // 08:05

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Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

If they're blind, then how will they be taking damage from VwK?

hahaha you're right...epic fail.

I've been really pissed off lately that no solo UW paragon build has been figured out yet (that I know of) so I just threw something together and posted it up for discussion.

I guess we could let this thread die now...

Although I would really like to hear some viable suggestions. I've been pondering for days now and all I've pondered up is a migraine

hexes are out of question...unless well covered, ele damage chains won't work because of the high energy costs...even with GoLE I don't think it would be feasable....not to mention effective.

is it really hopeless?

Quote:

Originally Posted by masta_yoda

u only got 1 running skills and no emanage , with no manage , u ll probably only be able to pull off one vwk vs grasps, unless u bring a +5/20%hsr wand and 20/20 offhand ....u can probably hit vwk when it recharges fast with 5e

1 running skill is plently, I never take more than that when running with my W/Rt, and the run speed duriation is about the same...

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill] vs [skill]"Fall Back!"[/skill]
12 vs 10 secs, give or take depending on how much you fancy in strength

Antithesis · Feb 12, 2008, 09:58 AM // 09:58

P/D???

Focused Anger
Blazing Finale
Finale of Restoration
Go for the Eyes
Victorious Sweep
Zealous Sweep
Rending Aura
Pious Haste / Hasty Refrain

Scythe Mastery : 12
Leadership : 8+1
Motivation : 7+1+1
Wind Prayers : 8
Command : 1

Survivor Insignia - Smite Crawlers have 560 health, you need more for Victorious Sweep
Zealous Scythe of Enchanting - energy management and permanent Rending Aura (use only when fighting Smite Crawlers)

A Zealous Scythe of Enchanting and Zealous Sweep takes care of energy; Victorious Sweep, Finale of Restoration for health; Pious Haste or Hasty Refrain for speed; Rending Aura to drop SoJ on Smites; Blazing Finale for degen; Focused Anger for adrenaline to power Go For The Eyes; GFTE to trigger BF/FoR...

That wasn't too hard

Don't know how viable it is.

Koning · Feb 12, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

You don't want to burn the smites, since they will just use mend condition and than you'll never be able to kill them. Also, since the nerf of GftE I would definatly not take that one anymore in a build like you suggested. 'Dodge this' would be alot better. Be it only for finale of restoration..but that would need points in motivation and I don't know if that's worth it.

If going P/D, I would definatly take great dwarf armor: 24 armor and +60 hp which is usefull for victorious sweep. Add vital boon to it, and you sit at around 700 hp (if you don't use a sup rune) which should be enough for the whole battle.

If I was to try something:

Farmers scythe
Victorious sweep
Rending Aura
Great Dwarf Armor
Vital Boon
Zealous Vow
Pious haste
Optional ( maybe drunken master so you can get your enchants up before you lure graspings)

12 scythe
10 wind (for 4e vow)
rest in earth

Don't even need a scythe of enchanting (10 is enough for constant rending aura), so fortitude is best for more HP. Also, zealous isn't needed this way.

Not much para skills, but para's aren't really made for soloing things imo.

Antithesis · Feb 12, 2008, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by Koning

You don't want to burn the smites, since they will just use mend condition and than you'll never be able to kill them. Also, since the nerf of GftE I would definatly not take that one anymore in a build like you suggested.

Thanks Koning. I didn't consider mend condition and GFTE's recharge is somewhat problematic.

Go with Koning's build, he knows his shit

masta_yoda · Feb 14, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0siris

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill] vs [skill]"Fall Back!"[/skill]
12 vs 10 secs, give or take depending on how much you fancy in strength

look at 25 sec recharge , by the time it finishes recharge ur gonna get smacked by aatxe...

ajc2123 · Feb 14, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by masta_yoda

look at 25 sec recharge , by the time it finishes recharge ur gonna get smacked by aatxe...

Not if you know the aatxe routes, which someone who's been down there 3 times should.

King's Spectre · Feb 14, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I tried using "I am the strongest!" to power final restoration and mending refrain. Even with rending aura and being able to spam the shout on every attack the smites just chewed me up. Need more armor..