Curse

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

enlighten me

Dr Strangelove · Feb 11, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Why on earth did you post this? You obviously aren't remotely interested in the large amounts of useful feedback you've gotten, and are now the laughingstock of these forums. It seems you were expected everyone to praise you on your awesome build, but that's simply not going to happen considering the numerous flaws.

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00

your a nobody and do not represent these forums i could care less what your find comical either. i bet in game your not even glad one and frankly i just dont care what you think.

that being said i like to argue with people but ive also found some of the suggestions quite interesting as im relatively new to dervish palying and ive gained some new perspective on strategy, but i like mine as well and couldnt care less waht you think about that.

Axel Zinfandel · Feb 11, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

your a nobody and do not represent these forums i could care less what your find comical either. i bet in game your not even glad one and frankly i just dont care what you think.

that being said i like to argue with people but ive also found some of the suggestions quite interesting as im relatively new to dervish palying and ive gained some new perspective on strategy, but i like mine as well and couldnt care less waht you think about that.

This is why I didn't reply to what you PMed me. This is nothing short of you getting pissy because you wanted uber feedback on your groundbreaking RA build, and people told you it was crap.

Someone call the freakin' wahmbulance

yum · Feb 11, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

maybe its not the easiest to use but you definately can use it effectively, you dont hel unless you have to btw. im not anoob you know im rank 5 glad, i would say it works if it didnt.

wow. You just give me more incentives not to pug. TY.

Oh and titles are SERIOUS bizzzz.

Go Korean RA and try this , if u r that Pr0 in RA.

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

This is why I didn't reply to what you PMed me. This is nothing short of you getting pissy because you wanted uber feedback on your groundbreaking RA build, and people told you it was crap.

so you dont like my build, i do. stop trying to tell me how to play the game, its better than that lame ass build you pmed me, all i said was it was alright but iliked mine too. go die seriously. your just trying to flame here.

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Originally Posted by yum

wow. You just give me more incentives not to pug. TY.

Oh and titles are SERIOUS bizzzz.

Go Korean RA and try this , if u r that Pr0 in RA.

koreans are overated, and yeah i do consider myself a good player. seems theres some sort of consensus to bash aob in this site but i like it, and like it or not it can be used effectively as any other avatar.

Bobby2 · Feb 11, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40

OMG how this has degenerated, lawled all way through

@ OP: sorry, but you suck sooooo baaaad

/signed for lock, as this is never going to become a constructive discussion

You've admitted you're quite new (still managed to get R5, if that's true that says a lot about RA to me) yet Q.Q at comments of people with more experience

/signed for attitude change

BYE

Cherng Butter · Feb 11, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

If you want to support heal, Avatar of Melandru is a more useful elite skill than Avatar of Balthazar

Your two healing spells on your original build are Imbue Health and Watchful Intervention. Watchful Intervention performs the same no matter what avatar you are using. Imbue Health will perform BETTER with Melandru, because you have +100 HP.

As for the damage side, Melandru just blows Balthazar out of the water with Wearying Strike, which = spammable deep wound spikes. The speed boost is easily reproduced with a non-elite skill, as is the +armor (which is less valuable anyway).

Axel Zinfandel · Feb 11, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

so you dont like my build, i do. stop trying to tell me how to play the game, its better than that lame ass build you pmed me, all i said was it was alright but iliked mine too. go die seriously. your just trying to flame here.

Quoted for proof that he doesn't care about other people's opinions.

BTW, for the hell of it. Heres what I sent him. Though keep in mind that the last time I did RA was like.. 1-2 years ago.

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That being said, Avatar of Lyssa boost your evergy and attack, allowing you to do BOTH of your main functions more often. Armor and protection for yourself you can easily gain from Earth Prayers, and speed boost from wind. Harrier's Haste also allows you to do even more conditional damage. Whirling Charge, even.

Harrier's Grasp can completely cover crippling sweep, and it also eliminates the possibility of them removing cripple. You may not even need a speed boost with this. Dwayna's Touch, with all these enchantments, is a great self heal, or even if your near others.

Other possibilities I can think of is Armor of Sanctity. Since your inflicting Cripple, that covers to conditional usage, and reduces damage that even extra armor can't. Conviction for obvious reasons. Sheild of force perhaps if you get targeted from melee...

There, now you can't say I never did any help.

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

true but if u used melandrus to fill the same role would you bring same atack skills on top of the 2 heals if so which one would you drop for speed, or what skills would you bring altogether if different.

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Quoted for proof that he doesn't care about other people's opinions.

stop trying to tell what i care a bout and what i dont? similarly ill play the game like i want and not how you want to? i just think thats the way it goes.

The Meth · Feb 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

im r5 ur not so if im on my knees ur on your elbows, you suck more.

From now on I will quote this thread as the reason any rank of gladiator title proves nothing about your skill level in this game.

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

stop trying to tell what i care a bout and what i dont? similarly ill play the game like i want and not how you want to? i just think thats the way it goes.

If you don't care about peoples opinions why did you create a thread with a purpose as such?

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

go die seriously. your just trying to flame here.

I think this about sums up his mentality.

Can we get this thread closed? Whatever worth it may have had is lone gone.

- Tain - · Feb 11, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

no (12 characters)

Way to skip the part that makes you so beautifully hypocritical

On a more constructive note, if you want a nicer support build, try:

Wearying Strike
Victorious Sweep
Harrier's Haste
AoM
Imbue Health
Natural Healing
Draw Conditions
Res Sig

BUT OH NOEZ YOU LOOK LIKE A TREE INSTEAD OF A BADASS!

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 04:05 AM // 04:05

but your not packing watchful. watchful with imbue health is what i can manage to keep the guy alive otherwise might as well go full damage. aslo is wearying alot more damage than chilling?

and yeah aob so much cooler looking than melandrus, always

- Tain - · Feb 11, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

Wearying = deep wound = removes 20% of their max hp and decreases healing effectiveness.
Watchful is very meh, imo - it might prevent an early spike, but using it as a 190 heal every 15 seconds on someone who is getting pounded below 25% is incredibly inefficient.

But as long as you look cool, I guess efficiency doesn't matter.

Ajank3r · Feb 11, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I generally time RA with at least one guildie, so that I can be confident of at least some intelligence on my team, and I run an A/Mo healer with Assassin's Promise (Guildie is generally running s spike build eg. Lyssa's or RSpike). IMO you should just run a self sufficient dmg build or if you REALLY want to heal just run a fullout healing build. For godsakes everybody, this sort of build is nothing new. The real hidden healer is the Me/D who outheals the monk (I run it frequently in GvG/TA and NOBODY will fing you then, who expects a Mesmer to be healing muchless a secondary Dervish ^_^).

PS -- If this build works for you why are you asking us if it works. I'd say that any build that you played in a team that got a 42 win streak was at LEAST competent if not brilliant. Most solid builds are just mundane tedious skill chains that work but get boring because of the lack of innovation.

Hope this contributed to the conversation ^^

EDIT: I got a random PM from him concerning an earlier thread that he had made on something or other, I had the exact same problem lol ^^

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

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Originally Posted by The Meth

If you don't care about peoples opinions why did you create a thread with a purpose as such?

theres a difference between not caring about peoples opinions and refusing to think what people tell you to think.

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

oooo.... this is the thread he was freaking out about.... strange wilderness PMed me asking about what i said and then wouldnt tell me what thread he was on about. apparently not memorizing every thread i post in means i have short term memory loss. anyone else get crazy PMs from this guy?

i pmed you to ask how you came to your conclusion 5 mins after you posted. hardly stalking your post made no sense thats all.

- Tain - · Feb 11, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by strange wilderness sucked

]i pmed you to ask how you came to your conclusion 5 mins after you posted. hardly stalking your post made no sense thats all.

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

this thread = epic facepalm

No, actually that does sum it up nicely.

strange wilderness sucked · Feb 11, 2008, 04:19 AM // 04:19

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Originally Posted by Ajank3r

PS -- If this build works for you why are you asking us if it works. I'd say that any build that you played in a team that got a 42 win streak was at LEAST competent if not brilliant. Most solid builds are just mundane tedious skill chains that work but get boring because of the lack of innovation.

Hope this contributed to the conversation ^^

EDIT: I got a random PM from him concerning an earlier thread that he had made on something or other, I had the exact same problem lol ^^

i didnt pm you man, but i do think he has point, the build is undeniably competent in the least. you can really see how this build can carry a team far is you look at the deathpacting which even if you end up loosing gives you another shot you otherwise would not have.

the melandrus alternative was interesting but not as impressive, maybe for full damage