Curse

Savio · Feb 15, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by Flem

I clearly stated that I have tried it (about 3 full days now) and it WORKS.

It's RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing AB. You don't want to know the crap I've run in there that worked.

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I would say try if for yourselves

The only people who say that are the ones with bad builds.

Tyla · Feb 15, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

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Originally Posted by Flem

Mending is an extremely common skill, does that make it a viable option? That's what "cookie cutter" refers too. Everyone uses it, if it's the best idea or not.

Last time I checked "Cookie Cutter" refered to something that did the job.

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I take double damage with frenzy.

One of the worst arguments on frenzy. Ever.

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Unless I want to be running away the entire round, I prefer not to use this skill. I have had nothing but bad times with it.

Rush is your friend.

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So, my options with IAS are: Self snare, Double damage, or 25% less given damage on autoattacking....

Double Damage is not a problem. Especially with smart (not even smart, anyone knows how to cancel Frenzy when being hit by something dangerous.) playing.

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And your defending these options but downing an anti-block skill because of it's flaws? All balanced skills have down sides.

Not all skills are balanced. Alot of skills are underpowered.

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It may, in the end, add up to be more, but the double damage isn't worth it. With the small, repeating spike of barb slice, gash, and DS, the difference would not be as noticable as you think.

Nope, the difference to ME is if you bring FGJ, you can apply strong pressure. Also it recharges your "spike" immediately.
Even then, that pressure is easily prevented by blocks.
And use Frenzy properly.

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Plus, I have twice as much hp afterwards.

It's called a monk. :/

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By the time they get back up I Iron Palm them again. When they get up from that, I put on SW again. I could also BS them if I brought that skill. After all this, unless they have a monk as a lap dog or have all my hits blocked

It's called preprotting.

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(hence me wanted to bring an anti block skill), they are dead.

This is also called changing targets.

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Also, SW works if I run away from them too, to get those extra few feet to spring back to them.

I'm not even going to come up with an answer for this.

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Um, because warriors don't have many options in this area. And like I said before, all balanced skills have down sides.

It's called Shock Axe, Dragon Slasher, Dev Hammer, Backbreaker, Earthshaker.
You are REALLY closed minded. True you made this - but it lacks essentials.

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I try to avoid the blockers, but as I run away I usually get slowed and kited. Seeing how 75%+ of PvPers bring block skills and snares, using "running away" as part of your attack plan is not the most viable option. You should instead figure ways to counter these actions.....which is what I'm trying to do.

Bring a Monk, and a speedboost, and switch targets when guardian goes up.
You're kidding about trying to find a way to counter these actions, right?
Because you're doing an absolutely awful job.

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Actually.....I asked from CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. And some people gave that to me and I thanked them. I specifically asked not to be flamed and that's exactly what happened. I was not "by far the most hostile". I did rant some (which I apologized for), but that's because I got teamed up on, and almost none of it was helpful. It was just complaining.

What do you expect? Everyone to come up to you, give you tons of beer, cash and sexy girls/men?
This is a forum, if you don't want to get flamed you're in the wrong place.

Scary Raebbit · Feb 15, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Just so I understand you, your asking me to be a careless burden on a healer that has an entire team to heal? To disregard all aspects of the game on focus on one and essentially be a "meat head"? And you call me bad? I guess this is why warriors get such a bad rep.

Plus, this is AB we're talking about dude? Did you not read that part? The large majority of the time there is not a monk in my PuG group. And if their is, not everyone dies at the same time, so when someone gets res'd, they are apart from the rest of the team and will likely have to 1v1 at least 5+ times in a round. Your play style might make it impossible for you to be able to effectively kill without an IAS, but mine doesn't.

Sorry if your monk sucks. Also, if your healer can't take care of you, either he sucks or you suck at not frenzy canceling. Also, bringing decent skills means you are doing more damage. Doing more damage means that you are ending skirmishes earlier. Means your monk is not as casting as much.
If you don't want to deal damage, go play a different class. But in the end, that is what you are doing indirectly or directly with every class.
If you have no monk in a PuG group, maybe just stop playing. Unless you like to lose a lot. Sorry, last time I checked this was a team game. Go 1v1 if you want to pwn with your super build, I'll regroup with my team and accomplish something.
Natural Healing > bullshit called Lion's Comfort.
Also, you won't be able to kill anything decent. You said it yourself.

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Originally Posted by Flem

After all this, unless they have a monk as a lap dog or have all my hits blocked (hence me wanted to bring an anti block skill), they are dead.

Warriors don't have a bad rep. You just suck and don't realize that a bad player playing with bad skills will give a bad rep. Especially a person like you.

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Originally Posted by Flem

LOL. They are 5 energy each dude. The whole build is practically adr. use. I have more then enough for those.
Shock:
1.)Causes exhaustion, not huge, but def. a downside.
2.)Ele only supplies that one KD. With Assassin, I get two and an ability to instantly catch a fleeing enemy + KD.
3.)OVERDONE. The whole point of me posting on here was to try and help other people out that wanted to try new things, HAVE FUN WITH THE GAME, and encourage creativity.
Either way, I didn't realize how much of elitest snobs you guys were. Not even sure why I posted on here now. If you guys haven't seen someone else do the same build 400 times then you won't even consider it, even though I clearly stated that I have tried it (about 3 full days now) and it WORKS. What more do you want? I would say try if for yourselves, but even my little run through at the top it's prolly not exact enough for you to understand the logistics of it. Oh well, enjoy your conformity.
LOL, you guys are ridiculous.

Overdone because maybe it's gud? KD before Spike> KD after, since now they have time to react. While you slowly spike with no KD and IAS, a person can already have Guardian+RoF. Also conditional KDs suck. Maybe if the game had a decent variety of skills, there would be creativity, but all skills are not balanced and some are just better.
So you are 1 person playing in a scrubfest for 3 days telling that a bad build works. Great credibility there. I guess that is why Shock Axe has been used and is still being used since Prophecies (or pre-nerf Gale). Why should I have to try it when you can see how bad it is compared to other builds on paper....

Death By Ketchup · Feb 15, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

I kinda wonder how he would do outside of fort aspenwood or ab when your espected to bring a res sig XP.

Flem · Feb 15, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by Savio

It's RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing AB. You don't want to know the crap I've run in there that worked.

lol. Have you even read my other posts?! That's exactly what I said. This is an AB build. It doesn't matter why it works, it just matters that it does.

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Last time I checked "Cookie Cutter" refered to something that did the job.

One of the worst arguments on frenzy. Ever.

Rush is your friend.

Double Damage is not a problem. Especially with smart (not even smart, anyone knows how to cancel Frenzy when being hit by something dangerous.) playing.

Not all skills are balanced. Alot of skills are underpowered.

Nope, the difference to ME is if you bring FGJ, you can apply strong pressure. Also it recharges your "spike" immediately.
Even then, that pressure is easily prevented by blocks.
And use Frenzy properly.

It's called a monk. :/

It's called preprotting.

This is also called changing targets.

I'm not even going to come up with an answer for this.

It's called Shock Axe, Dragon Slasher, Dev Hammer, Backbreaker, Earthshaker.
You are REALLY closed minded. True you made this - but it lacks essentials.

Bring a Monk, and a speedboost, and switch targets when guardian goes up.
You're kidding about trying to find a way to counter these actions, right?
Because you're doing an absolutely awful job.

What do you expect? Everyone to come up to you, give you tons of beer, cash and sexy girls/men?
This is a forum, if you don't want to get flamed you're in the wrong place.

Nope, cookie cutter can refer to something if it works or not, sorry to break it to you but common =/= awesome.

Also, congrats on copy/pasting the response's ahead of you. You're obviously just trying to fit in, or else you wouldn't have posted. If you had nothing new to add to the topic then your just flaming and conforming. +10 points?

I love how you guys think that I can 1.) Always have a monk to hold my hand in AB. 2.) Expect a monk to pay all his attention to me. Such meat heads.

If I don't want to be flamed I'm in the wrong place?!?! LOL. This proves what I've been saying EXACTLY. You guys don't come on here to discuss builds or to be constructive in anyway. You come on here to be elitist assholes. Just trying to make yourself look cool and insult people for posting and looking for ideas. I never asked for people to come on and pound the point home that no one in GW has any creativity anymore and that your too scared to try something for yourself. I want creativity. Not a puss verison of a ragged out build.

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Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

Sorry if your monk sucks. Also, if your healer can't take care of you, either he sucks or you suck at not frenzy canceling. Also, bringing decent skills means you are doing more damage. Doing more damage means that you are ending skirmishes earlier. Means your monk is not as casting as much.
If you don't want to deal damage, go play a different class. But in the end, that is what you are doing indirectly or directly with every class.
If you have no monk in a PuG group, maybe just stop playing. Unless you like to lose a lot. Sorry, last time I checked this was a team game. Go 1v1 if you want to pwn with your super build, I'll regroup with my team and accomplish something.
Natural Healing > bullshit called Lion's Comfort.
Also, you won't be able to kill anything decent. You said it yourself.

Warriors don't have a bad rep. You just suck and don't realize that a bad player playing with bad skills will give a bad rep. Especially a person like you.

Overdone because maybe it's gud? KD before Spike> KD after, since now they have time to react. While you slowly spike with no KD and IAS, a person can already have Guardian+RoF. Also conditional KDs suck. Maybe if the game had a decent variety of skills, there would be creativity, but all skills are not balanced and some are just better.
So you are 1 person playing in a scrubfest for 3 days telling that a bad build works. Great credibility there. I guess that is why Shock Axe has been used and is still being used since Prophecies (or pre-nerf Gale). Why should I have to try it when you can see how bad it is compared to other builds on paper....

This post, once again, proved nothing. Your just regurgitating what your boyfriends are saying.

It's freaking AB. You can wait for a perfect team to come along, but wind up spending more time smack talking in general chat then PvPing if you want, but that's not what I want to do. This is a Pug AB build. I have said it over and over. That's what it is meant for.

Heh. "If you don't want to do damage". So, your telling me that you don't think I can do any dmg because I don't have your exact skill line up that pvxwiki giftwrapped for you? Sad little man.

Team work is what I try for. In a perfect world all the players' builds would sinc up perfectly, but if I wanted that I'd GvG. That's not what I'm doing here. And if by "team work" you mean: making the monk follow you all over the AB map instead of worrying about other people when you die and get res'd somewhere else....then you have no idea what your talking about. Team work is about surviving and doing damage for a warrior.

If you can't survive as a warrior your a joke. That's why warriors have such a bad rep. It's the people that play them. Most always run into battle like Leeroy and not worrying about any one else on their team. Which usually ends with you running back to the monk with your tail between your legs crying about how that ele 'wtfpwned' you doing double dmg.

Flem · Feb 15, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by Death By Ketchup

I kinda wonder how he would do outside of fort aspenwood or ab when your espected to bring a res sig XP.

XD I'd use a different build.... What are you even talking about? You do realize those 8 skills at the bottom can be changed right? Is this your first day playing?

moko · Feb 15, 2008, 06:38 PM // 18:38

OP doesn't want to change his build at all, no need to discuss build, build is shown to the community, if they want to use it or not is up to them.

thread closed, nothing coming out of it.