Curse

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 20, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

this build is exactly what I ran on a nec and had no problems with energy.

Also with your thing any decent vanilla air spammer can do better.
Also its RA anything works there

Earth · Jan 20, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

I think you already know by now that it's bad.

You can't deny it.

runeseeker1 · Jan 20, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

You shouldn't make a build to defeat the bad RA players, of course there are morons that don't kite until they got 100 health left. But you don't need a very good build to defeat those, now do you.

And again, a decent/good warrior will simply knocklock you for 6-9sec, and you will die. No doubt about it.

And your 'damage' is far from high enough not to bring any form of utility for the party.

Yet again, people state counters that are not realistically preventable. How would I be able to prevent myself from getting knocked down? Am I supposed to model my build around that? Am I supposed to switch my secondary just because I want to bring Balanced Stance or Fleeting Stability? The only way for me to protect myself against that is to run blind, prevent kds, or block. What if I cannot do any of them? What if I am running a Fire ele and can't bring Blinding Flash, or Blinding Surge? Is my build suddenly bad because of that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth

I think you already know by now that it's bad.

You can't deny it.

Don't post just for the hell of it. If you have constructive criticism, say it. If not, gtfo.

Squishy ftw · Jan 20, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by runeseeker1

Yet again, people state counters that are not realistically preventable. How would I be able to prevent myself from getting knocked down?

By trying not to get hit in the first place? By not running up to the warrior but instead casting from a distance, and when he does come after you, kite. By bringing ward against melee,blind,.. ?

Ofcourse I understand you can't make 100% sure you're not going to be knocked down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by runeseeker1

Am I supposed to model my build around that? Am I supposed to switch my secondary just because I want to bring Balanced Stance or Fleeting Stability? The only way for me to protect myself against that is to run blind, prevent kds, or block. What if I cannot do any of them? What if I am running a Fire ele and can't bring Blinding Flash, or Blinding Surge? Is my build suddenly bad because of that?

When I make an ele build I look at a few things:
- Can I help with spikes/deal a decent amount of damage?
The only good part about your build lies here, your skills go through prots, but that's about it. They can however be easily outhealed, and you have to run up to touchrange to use them.

- Do I help the party?
For your build,the answer here is no, which primarily makes me to dislike it for RA. Whenever I play ele in RA I have either blind, aegis or ward against melee(mostly this one) with me because bringing just that 1 skill helps your party A LOT.

- RES SIG, but you got this one :d

So overall, I think your build is just.. bad.

Earth · Jan 20, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by runeseeker1

Don't post just for the hell of it. If you have constructive criticism, say it. If not, gtfo.

I'm sorry, but your build is just bad. It just is.

If you want to run an ele, do it with ele skills. Not 6 necro skills, 1 ele skill and a res signet.

A blindbot would be much more useful to your team then this. It does... nothing. The damage is bad, you can't do pressure, you don't support your team in any way whatsoever.

It's just bad :\

Ensign · Jan 20, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

You shouldn't make a build to defeat the bad RA players

What if you are also a bad player? Isn't a build that a bad player can use to beat other bad players useful?

Squishy ftw · Jan 20, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

You shouldn't make me think this hard, it hurts

And it will be useful in matches where you'll have more bad players against you than good ones yes, I think :x

moriz · Jan 20, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

i think bad players would be more interested in a build that allows them to beat good players.

to the OP: i think you should just accept the fact that your build is not very good. this is not a flame; this is a fact.

ensoriki · Jan 20, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

You do know there are people on Guru who do play RA every once in awhile.

If you run into them, not only will you see that your build should be tossed in the garbage.
But that Ensoriki Told you so.

Want to make Blood Necro builds?
1st step, Play it on the Necro class.
2nd step, if its energy extensive, Go for ways around that, don't just switch the class.
3rd step, if it's very easily countered you may want to work through it again.
4th Step, if your playing in RA of course you'll win a few matches every now and again, possibly because the rest of your team is competent

ZenRgy · Jan 20, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by runeseeker1

YWhat if I am running a Fire ele and can't bring Blinding Flash, or Blinding Surge? Is my build suddenly bad because of that?

Actually mind blast bars can bring skills such as blinding flash due to the great amount of energy mind blast is able to yield.

Moloch Vein · Jan 21, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Could someone tell me why the OP wants to run this on an elementalist?

Yichi · Jan 21, 2008, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

At least it has a [skill]resurrection signet[/skill]...

Probably the only good thing about that bar that was posted. Otherwise its complete crap.

Winterclaw · Jan 21, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

What if you are also a bad player? Isn't a build that a bad player can use to beat other bad players useful?

A build that a bad player can use to beat a good player would be better.

Dr Strangelove · Jan 21, 2008, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Could someone tell me why the OP wants to run this on an elementalist?

Because energy storage is apparently better energy management than soul reaping, didn't you get the memo?

xDusT II · Jan 21, 2008, 04:25 AM // 04:25

When I came to this thread I thought I had accidentally clicked on the Necromancer forums instead.

Quote:

YWhat if I am running a Fire ele and can't bring Blinding Flash, or Blinding Surge? Is my build suddenly bad because of that?

Apart from the fact that a fire ele can fit blinds on his bar, the main reason to run something different is because it offers capabilities that would not be possible in the build you were previously running. (Un)Fortunately you can't put everything that is good onto one bar. You have to decide what roles you can play on one character without it becoming a juggling act. The reason anyone would play hypothetical build X over build Y is because build X offers something useful to your current situation that build Y can't do. Besides, Guild Wars is not a game about builds. You can succeed with bad builds, but you really can't excel with them.

odly · Jan 21, 2008, 06:09 AM // 06:09

If you want to spam lifestealing spells try Cultists fervor + massoshism with vamp gaze, angorodon's, lifebane etc ...

Ar least you won't run out of energy.

bhavv · Jan 21, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25

OMG that bar is full of fail. End of discussion.

If you want to play elly in RA, Shatterstone > all. Period.

Glyph of immolation
Shatterstone
Freezing gust
Steam
Slippery ground
Glowing Ice
Water attunement
Res sig.

Other alternatives to playing elly in RA - searing flames, savannah heat, invoke lightning, blinding surge, mind freeze, water trident.

All good PVP elly builds are based on one of these elites, but for RA shatterstone rules all.

Cookie cutter > you.

Kwan Xi · Jan 21, 2008, 06:31 AM // 06:31

I'm a fan of gimmicky builds people come up with because I screw around with them in RA myself for fun.

As for your build if your truly going to use it since you gotta stay in melee range I would suggest replacing vampiric gaze with Vampiric Touch or Bite.

Dr Strangelove · Jan 21, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwan Xi

I'm a fan of gimmicky builds people come up with because I screw around with them in RA myself for fun.

As for your build if your truly going to use it since you gotta stay in melee range I would suggest replacing vampiric gaze with Vampiric Touch or Bite.

vamp touch and bite aren't spells.

Kwan Xi · Jan 21, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

vamp touch and bite aren't spells.

oh yeah.... thats right... ok forget what I said then