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Old Feb 20, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54   #1
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Default Rt/D PvP. any good?

this build any good?

vamp weapon, crit hitting for 95+5, no 20/20 unlocked for pvp

boon is there just to cover spirit strength from pious

tested it in ab. works great with a good monk. took out 3 luxon warriors + made a player ranger run away with just me and a good monk. hit the warriors for ~150 with chilling
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58   #2
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Since Spirit's Strength adds +damage, the amount of DPS it gives is dependent on the attack speed of the weapon you use; thus a scythe, with its slow attack speed, is a poor choice. Additionally, Pious Assault on that bar will strip Spirit's Strength, which is very bad.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05   #3
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Since Spirit's Strength adds +damage, the amount of DPS it gives is dependent on the attack speed of the weapon you use; thus a scythe, with its slow attack speed, is a poor choice. Additionally, Pious Assault on that bar will strip Spirit's Strength, which is very bad.


Nice reading.. Vital Boon is to cover SS so it is not stripped from Pious...

Seems like you are running this in AB right? Anything other then AB I would say just run dervish..
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05   #4
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Your build is too defensive for me... but you gave me and Idea hmm..
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12   #5
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not designed to be defensive. but that is the only logical weapon spell choice. weapon of aggression would be ideal, except 10e every 10 seconds is a little to much. and boon is to cover spirit. crit on near 2 outa 3 hits for 100 damage auto attackind isnt to bad imo.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18   #6
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Hard to be "too defensive" on a 60 AL character in frontline.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20   #7
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You're a squishy frontliner. This can work in RA/AB, but in serious PvP you're most likely going to be easily killed.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02   #8
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Nice reading.. Vital Boon is to cover SS so it is not stripped from Pious...
Sorry I failed at reading a line that wasn't there when I posted?
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05   #9
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I played Spirit's Strength a LOT in PvE/PvP.

And I can tell you it is epic fail in PvP. Seriously, if you want to deal melee damage, roll an Assassin or a Warrior or a REAL Dervish.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07   #10
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You're a squishy frontliner. This can work in RA/AB, but in serious PvP you're most likely going to be easily killed.
ohai

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Old Feb 20, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17   #11
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Rt/W axe would be pretty deadly

At least better than Rt/D because of faster attack speed of the axe...
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #12
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Rt/W axe would be pretty deadly

At least better than Rt/D because of faster attack speed of the axe...
I would think so too, but I have NEVER seen a Spirit's Strength warrior axe (or sword or hammer) build. Never ever ever. Everyone's para, assasin, ranger, and occasional derv...
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55   #13
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rt/w axe build i came up with. thoughts?

master of damage in there to
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58   #14
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- For Great Justice + Wild Blow? My brain cannot compute....
- Vital Weapon? I personally prefer either Weapon of Aggression or Splinter Weapon to trigger SS
- I'd drop Furious Axe, Swift Chop and Wild Blow for something like Dismember or another adrenaline attack or use something like YMLAD
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 04:14 AM // 04:14   #15
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how about this?
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22   #16
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I like Spirit Strength build. But the real problem with spirit strength build is not really damage dealing but survivability. That's why many choose secondary range physicals (ranger and para) for the SS build. Going melee, especially in PVP, is not really advisable.

I have Rt/W SS build that uses bonetti's defense but I've never use it in PVP. However, I've used it extensively in PVE (H/H not with pugs) with a good result, not great, but good enough.

And I have an armor set with some Ghost Forge insignias specifically for Spirit Strength build.

My take.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 11:08 AM // 11:08   #17
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I would think so too, but I have NEVER seen a Spirit's Strength warrior axe (or sword or hammer) build. Never ever ever. Everyone's para, assasin, ranger, and occasional derv...
The biggest problem is that most of the best warrior attacks are adrenaline based (as expected), and the biggest advantage of the rt/w over the w primary is more energy regen allowing for more energy based attacks. However, since they for the most part suck, no one really brings rt/w.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 11:30 AM // 11:30   #18
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I was trying weapon of agression + attacker's insight Rt/D, kinda works for low-end pvp types like ABs.

But your build seriously need a running skill and e-manage, running the build mod with weapon of agression its dps is around 49, about the as same as a shock/axe cept for -56 armor.

Conclusion : Wanna use it, play PvE or AB, not suitable for RA or HA.
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Old Feb 20, 2008, 11:52 AM // 11:52   #19
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The biggest problem is that most of the best warrior attacks are adrenaline based (as expected), and the biggest advantage of the rt/w over the w primary is more energy regen allowing for more energy based attacks. However, since they for the most part suck, no one really brings rt/w.
I use a Rt/W with a sword
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Old Feb 21, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11   #20
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I use a Rt/W with a sword
Rt/W axe at least has the ability to spam cyclone axe. What does sword have? Power attack? :P Noob!
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