Curse

NecroticChanter · Mar 27, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Hi there, I was in AB and encountered a N/D MM. I was quite frustrated after my SH almost did no damage to it. Burning was just transferred to another minion. I've faced these MMs as other classes and can beat them but how would a ele killing one? Attempt to out damage it didn't seem to be successful same with conditions. I also looked at other magics. Earth didn't do much and Water snare didn't help much either. Air was the only magic that could actually damage the MM. Any suggestions?

Pyro maniac · Mar 27, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Ignore them, or cast some AoE skills at the minions
a minion master with dead minions isn't a threat

milkflopance · Mar 27, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by NecroticChanter

Hi there, I was in AB and encountered a N/D MM. I was quite frustrated after my SH almost did no damage to it. Burning was just transferred to another minion. I've faced these MMs as other classes and can beat them but how would a ele killing one? Attempt to out damage it didn't seem to be successful same with conditions. I also looked at other magics. Earth didn't do much and Water snare didn't help much either. Air was the only magic that could actually damage the MM. Any suggestions?

There's this thing called enchantment removal. Use it.

Or you could just kill all the minions so he's vulnerable.

Tyla · Mar 27, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

/N and take Rend Enchantments, or Gaze of Contempt. That > Eles, Monks, anything that uses enchantments.
I still always run Mind Blast on my Elementalist, so energy is still easy to manage.

Abedeus · Mar 27, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Rend Enchantment > N/D Minion Master. Or Scourge Sacrifice.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 27, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

just blow up his minions and laugh as he runs with his sorry ass on fire

the kurzick eater · Mar 27, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

just nuke the minions. MMs aren't really that big of a threat anyways, tbh

Just.nl · Mar 27, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

What cares it.. if the MM let transfer his dmg to his Minions or nuke his minions.. and Let the minions come to you and use Bed Of Coals+ Meteor shower

And.. maybe with Armor Penetration?

Johny bravo · Mar 27, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

What are you doing trying to fight other players in AB CAP CAP CAP. If a battle with another player is goign to
a) requrie multiple payers to win
b) longer then a minute
c) result in your death or a standoff

Run around him and be a usefull player. MMs are only a threat to you if you figth them, they are slower then you so easily out manuvered. Avoid the Mob cap the shrines

Stormlord Alex · Mar 27, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by NecroticChanter

Any suggestions?

Ignore him and walk away?
If you're running a capping build, like a SH nuker, then you shouldn't be attacking other players anyway.

NecroticChanter · Mar 27, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by Johny bravo

What are you doing trying to fight other players in AB CAP CAP CAP. If a battle with another player is goign to
a) requrie multiple payers to win
b) longer then a minute
c) result in your death or a standoff

Run around him and be a usefull player. MMs are only a threat to you if you figth them, they are slower then you so easily out manuvered. Avoid the Mob cap the shrines

idk if u have noticed but when u run between shrines to cap...the enemy may appear. Run around? It's called a mob, they pick off teams.

Moloch Vein · Mar 27, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

The specific build you ask about ("Heir to...") isn't very dangerous. The biggest inconvenience about Aura/Lich MMs is their ability to maintain an army and use it to bodyblock players.

If I didn't bring anything specific versus enchantments I'd definitely let him be. Otherwise both lifestealing and enchantment removal works well.

The idea of "let's nuke the shit out of him" may or may not work. If you suddenly notice he isn't running Lich at all but Order of Undeath, it will probably NOT be such a good idea to stand withing casting range for the time required to fire off your spells.

the ruloes · Mar 27, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

I usually just nuke their minions, with fire spells they drop pretty rapidly. They're AI nubs, they don't know how to avoid AoE!

I've had some great fun packing [skill=text]Verata's aura[/skill] on my bar, too. I charge into the group, shout "Mine!" into local chat, then steal his minions. Of course, you can't maintain 'em, but temporary allies is better than no allies! And, of course, snatching all minions off a minionmaster is like diverting WoH - it's great fun to be a royal pain in the rear!

Chthon · Mar 28, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14

1. Ignore it and go cap. The MM is just there to stall you, and you're falling for it.

2. Nuke the minions and kill him when he has no minions left.

3. Bring a secondary with a hoser skill -- enchant removal, scourge healing, verata's aura, etc.

4. Knockdown during dark bond's 2 sec cast.

Amadei · Mar 28, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20

a) Ignore him. Don't let him stall you.

b) Kill the minions.

c) Let someone better suited for the job take him out.

You're going to have to acknowledge that there are some builds that you can't take out yourself (at least not on your own). If you come across one of these builds, simply ignore them and move on.

Dr Dimento · Mar 28, 2008, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Go E/N and bring [skill]Rend Enchantments[/skill]

You dont even need any points invested since a N/D has no monk skills, and only has 5 enchants (assuming he brings verata's aura).

MasterSasori · Mar 28, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by milkflopance

There's this thing called enchantment removal. Use it.

Or you could just kill all the minions so he's vulnerable.

QFT

12 char

freaky naughty · Mar 30, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

bring gaze of contempt, it's pretty much always useful and its especially useful against that particularly build.

Marverick · Mar 31, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by the ruloes

I've had some great fun packing [skill=text]Verata's aura[/skill] on my bar, too. I charge into the group, shout "Mine!" into local chat, then steal his minions. Of course, you can't maintain 'em, but temporary allies is better than no allies! And, of course, snatching all minions off a minionmaster is like diverting WoH - it's great fun to be a royal pain in the rear!

QFT

Run up to him as his minions all group around you, hit VA, and watch him run away

Now you have a temporary army of meat shields. By the time VA ends they're probably dead from degen or damage already.

Fluffy Butt · Apr 10, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Play a toucher, kill him in 2 hits lol!

But seriously, attack the minions. A MM w/o minions is like a fish out of water.