Curse

blue.rellik · Mar 10, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

zomg stfu noob
old build is old

warr's endurance healer w/mo is the new pwn

strenth + heelz > tactis

zomg dude y u so harsh? im new at da game k? b nicerer plz

Jam Jar · Mar 10, 2008, 05:58 AM // 05:58

What's so bad about Thrill of Victory?

As long if they have less health you do 30+ more damage.

Dr Strangelove · Mar 10, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

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Originally Posted by Jam Jar

What's so bad about Thrill of Victory?

As long if they have less health you do 30+ more damage.

Because you could just take power attack for an unconditional +30 damage on a shorter recharge. Also, power attack kind of sucks for most warrior bars.

ogre_jd · Mar 10, 2008, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Also, power attack kind of sucks for most warrior bars.

Maybe for Warriors who have access to all of the skills and/or don't want to invest in Strength. For the rest of us it's a fast, cheap and very damaging skill to use while we're getting our Adrenaline back up for the big attack skills for our chosen weapon.

Shaz · Mar 10, 2008, 12:54 PM // 12:54

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Originally Posted by ogre_jd

Maybe for Warriors who have access to all of the skills and/or don't want to invest in Strength. For the rest of us it's a fast, cheap and very damaging skill to use while we're getting our Adrenaline back up for the big attack skills for our chosen weapon.

It's not like you can spam it anyway, outside of a Warrior's Endurance bar, so the fast recharging is meh. Warrior do not use Power Attack not because they don't want to invest in Strength, but because that energy is better spent else where. Bull's Strike, Shock, Sprint, Frenzy, Enraging Charge, Crushing Blow, etc. just to name a few of the common one. And warrior should always invest some in Strength, not for the AP but for the skills.

dread pirate fargus · Mar 10, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06

as long as other professions run tactics better than warriors do (e.g imbagons) then tactics will be dead. they should dual-attribute the skills that get abused by paras, eg watch yourself shields up, to make it last longer or +effect for stat in strength.

Bobby2 · Mar 10, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Yeah, because Shields Up! is REALLY overpowered, and WY! hasn't been nerfed enough.

i herd imbagonz ran Dodge This! dees dayz

kobey · Mar 10, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

I thought of another reason to run Tactics:
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You invested a whole load of money creating the "purple" look to match your tactics req only Amethyst Aegis. And now you have no choice but to put 9 points (I hope its req 9) into tactics.

isamu kurosawa · Mar 10, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by kobey

I thought of another reason to run Tactics:
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You invested a whole load of money creating the "purple" look to match your tactics req only Amethyst Aegis. And now you have no choice but to put 9 points (I hope its req 9) into tactics.

although i do have a char to match my amethyst its a mesmer, so meh.

Draginvry · Mar 10, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

For me, Tactics is dead. I've already switched several of my warrior heros to strength builds. I suppose I'll have to get shields now for them, too.

With Lion's Comfort being based completely on strength now, and Watch Yourself! being fairly useless, there is absolutely no reason to run Tactics on a warrior when Strength has a hell of a lot better skills.

Tactics might still be usefull for a paragon though. Which is even more maddening, because that's the whole reason they made it useless for warriors to begin with.

Bobby2 · Mar 10, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Draginvry

For me, Tactics is dead. I've already switched several of my warrior heros to strength builds. I suppose I'll have to get shields now for them, too.

Well, the existance of Para's make the Soldier skills pretty attractive in the right set-up. So Koss will probably use it for the time to come.

Then again when I get to Hayda, Koss will get the boot anyway.

Alex the Great · Mar 10, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54

woot, i just replaced my tactics rune with radient and threw a stonefist on my gloves (i run survivors/ radients mixed)

brawling headbutt ftw

Dronte · Mar 10, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by kobey

I thought of another reason to run Tactics:
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You invested a whole load of money creating the "purple" look to match your tactics req only Amethyst Aegis. And now you have no choice but to put 9 points (I hope its req 9) into tactics.

My shield collection consist almost only tactics shields :x

Coloneh · Mar 10, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

healsig is still better than lion's. you dont always have adrenaline when you need to heal.

RavagerOfDreams · Mar 10, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

quite simply no there is no good reason anymore

healsig is only good in ra circumstances as with all other areas of gameplay you can pick your team thus removing the need for a self heal (although having one isnt bad). Watch yourself was finished after it's initial downfall due to SY. ....so no don't do it

freaky naughty · Mar 10, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31

OF COURSE THERE ARE REASONS TO USE TACTICS! For paragons that is. If tactics skills are added or buffed it will be an addition or buff to the paragon.

Shaz · Mar 11, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Was there even a reason to before?

Most of the skills that warrior invested in Tactics for are still viable to use if you want to, though there are probably better options. Charge!, Shield Up!, and Heal Signet. There are better elite for Sword Warrior now making Charge! pretty obsolete. Shield Up! can be place on the paragon. And you don't need Heal Signet in both PvE and PvP, unless you're splitting.

The only thing that's change now is Watch Yourself. And Fear Me! in Steady Stance warrior build, which I'm ok with that skill being nerfed.

Tactics has always been a weak attribute line for a warrior in both PvE and PvP, outside of a few farming build that use stances. Strength is just a much better line to invest in with all the great skills that are in it and it has always been this way.

yum · Mar 11, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by Shaz

Tactics has always been a weak attribute line for a warrior in both PvE and PvP, outside of a few farming build that use stances. Strength is just a much better line to invest in with all the great skills that are in it and it has always been this way.

I herd WM ran "Charge" warriors with no cancel for frenzy and they ownzz

Winterclaw · Mar 11, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Shaz, ViM warriors were semi-common for a time before that skill was nerfed. I think ToV once had a healing effect very early when proph was released. Fear Me had its uses before it was nerfed. WY was an easy way to reduce damage before that skill was nerfed.

Shaz · Mar 11, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35

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Originally Posted by yum

I herd WM ran "Charge" warriors with no cancel for frenzy and they ownzz

I'm talking about now. And in my post I didn't put down Charge!, just said that there are better elite for sword warrior to choose from now.