Curse

Zil · Mar 03, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by Ismoke

my war has 630hp.. minor's ftw..

625 is the way to go. Stonefist wins you matches.

Ismoke · Mar 06, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

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Originally Posted by Zil

625 is the way to go. Stonefist wins you matches.

I do plus the rune for blind and weakness on my stonefist gloves..

PhantomKitsune · Mar 13, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I may be a Newb around here But I would Like to chip in, though Ranger was my first a War was my second. I knew the tradeoff when I did that, and eyeing the class as a whole you need to keep in mind, you need to be able to absorb damage, not mitigate the damage with a high health. After all if it was that easy we would all be using +health on everything, I myself only have + health to counter the Major/Superior Runes.
Second, hexes are only so bad if the caster is dead first, Warrior's are still meant to keep pressure and take as much standard damage as possible.

So In my opinion, your armor should match your play style, If you run a high energy build, get radiant, if your run with Stances, run Sentry's, If you know your going against elemental go setienal's. To me, I go knights because its flexible, its a 'Jack of All Trades' But it can get your through unknown enemy's but if you know what you're facing get the right gear for the job.

Nyktos · Mar 13, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

In general, I'd go armour in PvE, health in PvP.

Rabid Sheep · Mar 13, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by zling

if all of you are correct than why do monks and most other casters carry shields with +10 armor vs various types, mainly slashing and bludgeoning?

monks are using these shields on top of hp bonuses from armor, not instead.

Tyla · Mar 13, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Rabid Sheep

monks are using these shields on top of hp bonuses from armor, not instead.

Armour + Health = Win.

But I would choose Health over Armour if it was a choose 1 or the other decision.

Lykan · Mar 14, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

WArriors already have 80 armour which is more than enough unless your tanking (which you shouldnt be).

Phe Belladona · Mar 14, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24

im curious when you hit on a warrior do you change to an elemental mod? if you do then where is your arguement for not using +20 vs elements armour?

blue.rellik · Mar 14, 2008, 04:46 AM // 04:46

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Originally Posted by Phe Belladona

im curious when you hit on a warrior do you change to an elemental mod? if you do then where is your arguement for not using +20 vs elements armour?

Because elemental armour isn't the main damage in the game?

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 14, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

Ok, you're new around here so I'll explain a few things.

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Originally Posted by PhantomKitsune

If you run a high energy build, get radiant

An extra 8 energy isn't going to do much unless you need to burst it all out at once, which shouldn't happen unless you're using high energy spells, which shouldn't happen. If you have a build that uses low energy skills semi-frequently over the duration of the fight, swapping to a zealous weapon is a better option.

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if your run with Stances, run Sentry's

You'll always have an IAS (unless you're running a bad build or are running some scythe build that fakes an IAS), so there isn't really an 'if'.

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To me, I go knights because its flexible, its a 'Jack of All Trades' But it can get your through unknown enemy's but if you know what you're facing get the right gear for the job.

You have 116AL vs physical and 80 AL vs elemental. Why are you further protecting against physical damage? Also, you could just run sentrys/brawlers and get a +10 to both.

Age · Mar 14, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

I still use Radiants on my Elite Gladiators and haven't changed my Knights although I do miss armour mixing.

The reason for running a Radiants is if you do lots of running for the extra energy.

Pyro maniac · Mar 14, 2008, 08:46 AM // 08:46

survivor + radiant for me, but +armor is fine in PvE

PhantomKitsune · Mar 14, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

Well to be honest I got my armor way back before insignia's, Not to mention I didn't do too much PvP, and still don't, because time constraints. I'm still working on getting another set but we all can't get all the mats/money we need for that

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As for stances some people might carry the removal around [Wild Blow, Wild Strike, Wild Throw] Anyway, yes IAS is a must but don't make it a crutch, you never know when someone will think of a way to shut it down

But yeah I know I need to fix up my old armor

tipiak · Mar 14, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

I currently have a radiant (energy), a survivor (health) and a sentinel (+20 armor vs elemental R13 strength) armors. I'm thinking about changing the survivor for a sentry complete set. As I do HM PvE, I'm already using a switch minor helmet more often than before. I think that +10 armor is better than +40 health versus HM high lv cheating mobs. Will try it out.

Phe Belladona · Mar 15, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

Because elemental armour isn't the main damage in the game?

you didnt get the context of pvp i guess

Savio · Mar 15, 2008, 03:28 AM // 03:28

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Originally Posted by PhantomKitsune

As for stances some people might carry the removal around [Wild Blow, Wild Strike, Wild Throw] Anyway, yes IAS is a must but don't make it a crutch, you never know when someone will think of a way to shut it down

If your opponent is trying to remove your IAS, you instantly win the game.

blue.rellik · Mar 15, 2008, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by Phe Belladona

you didnt get the context of pvp i guess

Oh really? Since when did warriors run +20 armour in PvP anyway?

And when I say PvP, I mean non-RA/AB and HB maps.

Sir Tidus · Mar 23, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

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Originally Posted by itsvictor

Because I heard more health is better.

Seriously, the damage that can be dealt from so many different sources will rip you apart if you don't have high enough health. That armor boost won't save you that often. It's not as conditional as Biostem said.

Elemental is not that conditional! Survivor's gives you very little health. Generally speaking, +20 vs. elemental is the best hands down if you have enough strength (fact not opinion).

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 23, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

Didn't read all of this thread but, + armor is better than + health. Think, after a few hits, your extra health has been removed, consider it nonexistent. You continue the fight and your health is down by 1/3. Is the extra health helping you now? NO - Is the extra armor helping you now? YES

Excluding extremes, extra armor will always be better than extra health.

blue.rellik · Mar 23, 2008, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

Elemental is not that conditional! Survivor's gives you very little health. Generally speaking, +20 vs. elemental is the best hands down if you have enough strength (fact not opinion).

I want your evidence