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Lord Galdir · Apr 07, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Hi,

Since all the nice synergizing hero builds require 1 or more EotN hero(es), I have been looking for some alternatives.

I myself play an IMBAgon.

1st build:

Sabway:
I have been swapping out the curses necro for a mesmer with fastcasting
or the MM bomber for a Ritualist Minion Master.
What do you think is best and do I need some adjustments for choosing an other profession?

2th Build:

3 paragon build:

I miss the 2th paragon hero, I normally fill this gap with a BHA ranger with some chants or shouts or an extra healer besides the D/N.
Again what are your opinions about this choice? Any suggestions?

Yes, I AM going to buy EotN after my exams, but please help me for the time being.

Thanks in advance.

Mr Pink57 · Apr 07, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

for the Paragon builds dropping the stunning shot for a BHA is just fine. Still going to inflict daze as intended. Just make sure they do not use an elemental bow to get the benefits of Order of Pain. I would do a BHA Epidemic vs putting shouts on the character. Once daze is spread its pretty much over for any caster.

Other option to try is if you want to use Stunning Strike with the builds, use the R/P beastmaster build (I dont think I have it on me right now).

pink

Benster · Apr 07, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

There are a few old Nightfall-only synergy builds you might be able to find. One used a shouts-Paragon spamming "Go for the eyes" and doing e-management while the rest of the team barraged, or something to that effect. Not sure if they are still available, but there were some.

Although I'm not sure about the all-purposefulness of any of those. I tend to frown on any team build with barrage on account of my expired love-affair with that skill that ended when I realized it wasn't that good.

Coloneh · Apr 07, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

for the paragon build a BHA/epidemic/volley will work well

for sabway trade the MM for a Ritualist bomber.

Pandora's box · Apr 07, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

The first synergizing build I know was a Nightfall build with Ranger/Paragon, Paragon/Warrior and Monk/Mesmer. I forgot who made it but the details were like this:

R/P
Command 9
Markm 15
Exp. 9
Wilderniss 9

Barrage
Distracting shot
Go for the eyes
Stand you ground
Favorable winds
Whirling Defence
Troll Unguent
Rez

P/W

Tactics 0
Command 9
Motivation 15
Spear mastery 9
Leadership 10

Flurry
Go for the eyes
Watch yourself
Song of restoration
Energizing final
Aria of Zeal
Leader's comfort
Signet of return

Mo/Me
Prot 16
Divine 10
Inspiration 9

Guardian
Reversal of Fortune
Prot. Spirit
Restore conditions
Aegis
Inspired/Revealed hex
Channeling
Rez chant

Its 2 years old and skills have been changed, so its probably not as effective as it was. But I used this 'engine' for completing the final missions in both Nightfall and Prophecies.

Antithesis · Apr 07, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Is this for HM or NM?

If NM you could take a couple of Searing Flamers or Mind Blast Warders / Channelers and a Necro MM.

If HM a Paragon, BHA Epidemic Volleyer and the D/N should work fine.

If taking Sabway, an anti-caster Me/Mo or anti-melee Blindbot/Channeler E/Rt instead of the Curser, a Necro MM (Hero Rt MM's suck) and maybe a Word of Healing or Healer's Covenant Mo.

To ease pressure on the Monk, offload condition removal to the MM via Foul Feast+Infuse Condition/Plague Sending.

Lord Galdir · Apr 08, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Thanks for the reactions all,
I just vanquished zehlon reach with 4 man team. No effort at all , very easy.
I took the ritualist MM bomber, and as you said, he didn't utilise the skills to the fullest, so i'm going to try the other suggestions you made.

Thanks again!

I will post results after i tryed some of the other builds.

DarkSpirit · Apr 08, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

for the paragon build a BHA/epidemic/volley will work well

Actually that doesn't work well for heroes, heroes dont understand that skill combination, they hardly click epidemic and when they do, they sometimes use epidemic when it is the last monster standing.

In other words, you need to micro-manage during battle if you want to use that for heroes. I have seen this posted many times but has anyone actually tried this out using heroes, besides myself?

I actually tried this out myself in HM, and that build failed miserably to AoE daze if I left it to the hero. Has anyone made this work without the need to micro-manage much?

It is kind of a pain to micro-manage heroes as an Imbagon as you are clicking SY most of the time and doing all sorts of things.

Pyro maniac · Apr 08, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSpirit

Actually that doesn't work well for heroes, heroes dont understand that skill combination, they hardly click epidemic and when they do, they sometimes use epidemic when it is the last monster standing.

In other words, you need to micro-manage during battle if you want to use that for heroes. I have seen this posted many times but has anyone actually tried this out using heroes, besides myself?

Half right, they use epidemic well. However they don't recognize conditions. They often use Apply Poison, *shoot arrow*, epidemic, BHA.
The recharge on epidemic is short however so it should work. And Stunning Strike also applies daze to just one target, so it isn't worse

DarkSpirit · Apr 08, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

Half right, they use epidemic well. However they don't recognize conditions. They often use Apply Poison, *shoot arrow*, epidemic, BHA.
The recharge on epidemic is short however so it should work. And Stunning Strike also applies daze to just one target, so it isn't worse

The recharge for epidemic maybe short but they hardly use it. Especially when you have Volley, they tend to use Volley most of the time.

Seeing that the hero casted epidemic even on the last monster standing, makes me doubt if they even gauge adjacent distances with other monsters before casting.