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Old Mar 29, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #21
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but the thing I whanted to tell is that taking a rez is not 1337 imo.

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Although Vengeance ftw:

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Old Mar 29, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14   #22
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Oh ya yaa, +1 that, again.

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Old Mar 29, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25   #23
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Well I tracked all skills down did a lil tweaking here and there and am very satisfied with my outcome so far.

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W Axe Mastery 12+1+1 Strength 12+1
[wiki]"You Move Like a Dwarf!"[/wiki][skill]Eviscerate[/skill][skill]Agonizing Chop[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill]

Hayda
P/E Spear Mastery 12+1+1 Leadership 11+1 Water Magic 6
[skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]Blazing Spear[/skill][skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][skill]Stunning Strike[/skill][skill]Steam[/skill][skill]Anthem of Flame[/skill][skill]"They're on Fire!"[/skill][skill]Signet of Return[/skill]

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Ra/Me Marksmanship 12+1+1 Expertise 12+1 Beast Mastery 3+1(Lvl 20 Dire Dune Lizard)
[skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill] [wiki]Volley[/wiki][skill]Epidemic[/skill] [wiki]Sloth Hunter's Shot[/wiki] [skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill][skill]Comfort Animal[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]

Tahlkora
Mo Healing Prayers 12+1+1 Protection Prayers 12+1 Divine Favor 3
[skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill] [wiki]Cure Hex[/wiki][skill]Light of Deliverance[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][wiki]Healing Ribbon[/wiki][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

So far Tahlkora's energy management is just sweet.Have done a couple extended battles(15+ monsters) and she hung in there like a trooper.Where I have hit a snag(I think) is a shield for Hayda.Any suggestions?Also as a side note(Super Igor:The updated version is fine and should work ok, rez is not 1337 tho imo)what is the best Resurrection spell?
I understand you're not after cookie cutter builds, but you're using builds that are 90% cookie cutter and 10% meh...

The Warrior is a PvP build. Whilst it's effective in that arena, either a Dragon Slash or Triple Chop build is better in PvE. The reason for this is the ability to spam "Save Yourselves!" for the rest of the team.

Steam on the Stunning Striker is more of a gimmick than an effective tool to spread blind. I've tried to get that working effectively myself and i'd rather fill that slot with something else. You're already getting Dazed from Broad Head Arrow, so Stunning Strike is obsolete. Try Defensive Anthem in that slot instead. Vicious Attack is obsolete because you've got Eviscerate for Deep Wound. Cruel Spear's basically a ranged Eviscerate, so you could use that if you change the Warrior to D-Slash or Triple Chop. They're on Fire's kinda wasted without an additional source of burning. If you take a Searing Flames elementalist or another Blazing Spear Paragon it becomes much more useful.

Beast Mastery needs to be buffed to increase the survivability of your lizard. Drop Marksmanship back to 12 and put the points in Beast. There are better options than taking a pet with no attack slots on your bar, but whatever floats your boat...

Light of Deliverance is pretty weak as your Monk's elite. For a similar but weaker party healing effect, you could use Song of Restoration on your Paragon while using Word of Healing on the Monk to counter spikes. Heroes aren't very good with Reversal of Fortune, Healing Ribbon is expensive and Protective Spirit will get you in energy trouble in late-game PvE. Protective Spirit is best used proactively, Heroes are reactive and tend to cast it after you actually need it.

A better Monk build would be -

Word of Healing {e}
Dwayna's Kiss
Signet of Rejuvenation
Cure Hex
Dismiss Condition / Remove Hex
Guardian / Shield of Absorption
Aegis
Glyph of Lesser Energy

The reasoning for selecting these skills is stated in the Monk thread I posted. The bar comes from 3 years of experience and a lot of research in the Monk forum, it's about the best you can hope to run on a Hero.


Guild Wars is a team game, give everyone skills to support the team (Save Yourselves!, Defensive Anthem, Aegis etc) and you'll make your job a lot easier.

Ultimately you'll also find that you don't need 3 Monks - it's much better to fill that Hero slot with another offensive character.

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Old Mar 30, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #24
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Definitely getting the point that cookie cutter builds are basically that way because that is simply what works.The best skills are the best.Period.Pretty much I like axes and tanking even those that may not be the best overall tactics in the game.But you are right about thinking about who is backing me up with what skills and that's where I felt I could really use some good advice.Going to take a fresh look at my monk and my paragon.The pet is another one of those not a great tactic but just liked having one in the mix thing.It does draw fire off of me and seems to help in the attacking of stuff.

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Old Apr 01, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34   #25
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Pet + BHA was always good not to mention that pets are perfect tanks, ur build is fine now and just godly compaired to what u have started with.

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