Curse

viper11025 · Apr 12, 2007, 09:16 PM // 21:16

I figured out how to fix my sin. Here lately I have been using a simple spread build.
My New Stats:
Armor: 70

Weapon:
Zealous Oni Daggers Of Enchanting (7-17Dmg)

Health: 480-510
Energy: 26-28

DM: 10
CS: 15
SA: 5
Unused Points: unknown

Skills:
Monk Resurect
Seeping wound (Elite)
Critical Defenses
Critical Strike

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Now that I have fixed my sin for Critical Strikes.
I was wonder what I can use with the above without changing a thing except attribute points not including DM and CS. I have not uses my extra points yet so that should open the way for more suggestions.

I am looking for a way to use critical strike and critical defenses as perfectly together as possible while making my enemy suffer.

I I I Inferno I I I · Apr 13, 2007, 02:52 AM // 02:52

1.How many unused points exactly have you got?
2.Is this for PvE or PvP?
3.This is my best try (if you have enough artribute points)

10-Dagger Mastery

Crit Strikes-15

Shadow Arts-0

Healing Prayers-8

Seeping Wound[E]
Black Spider Strike
Twisting Fangs
Black Lotus Strike
Critical Strike
Critical Defences
Restorefull Breeze
Healing Prayers Ressurect

This would be strongly for pvp. If you want pve

Same skill pts

Unsuspecting Strike(10 nrg but 100 dmg)
Wild Strike
Death Blossom
Moebious Strike[E]
Critical Strike
Critical Defences
Restorefull Breeze
Healing Prayers Ressurect.

That is probably what I would do for pve and i know you said not changing skills but Seeping wound is not that good in pve. Deathblossom in pve is the best skill you can use

Samurai-JM · Apr 13, 2007, 03:22 AM // 03:22

Seeping wound is a bit pointless for an elite hex. Something such as Shadowy Burden(which acts as a speed damper on the enemy as well as armor reduction) is usually better.

Also, critical strikes should normally not exceed 13, although its a matter of opinion. 13 is the main breaking point for the best parts of critical strikes, and making it higher doesn't make much difference. I would probably run 13 CS and 13 DM. Also try to get 6 SA, as that is also a breaking point for many skills. A good build would be like one posted earlier:

[skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Jagged Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill][skill]Resurrect[/skill]

Jagged can be changed to unsuspecting for a bigger starting spike.
Jagged and Wild can be replaced by Golden Phoenix for room for another healing skill, such as Live Vicariously.

Just use the starting attack skills to get into the Death Blossom -> Moebius combo, then use Critical Strike whenever you need energy or when you need to refresh Critical Defenses. It's one of the best all around PvE builds, and has many variants such as A/D, A/W, and A/x with healing skills from several professions.

viper11025 · Apr 13, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Its for PvE
I only have common skills the mobeius strike is not avalible for me yet

Samurai-JM · Apr 14, 2007, 01:25 AM // 01:25

If you have seeping wound(available outside Senjis) you're not far off. Just take the kurzick path through to the Eternal Grove and you can get it. Without Moebius I suppose seeping would will work, at least it adds its full degen with Jagged Strike. In that case you can remove critical strike and add... black lotus maybe. Just for e-management.

viper11025 · Apr 14, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26

i was thinking that too but now I got a new build and its working.
As soon as I find a faster first-strike that dosent cost 10E I will be doing ok.
Is there a first strike faster than 6seconds and cost 5E?

Yanman.be · Apr 14, 2007, 02:46 PM // 14:46

Jagged Strike and Black Mantis Thrust.

exiled55555 · Apr 16, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

I made this build that can totally own, even in FoW( i have the pics to prove it too), it goes as Jagged Striker, Wild Strike ,Criticle Strike, Healing Hands, Vigorous Spirit, Live Vicariously, and Rebirth. I know this build doesnt use criticle defences but u can switch Healing Hands for criticle defences if you want(havent tried it tho)

Yanman.be · Apr 16, 2007, 05:38 AM // 05:38

So you don't have an elite?

Also, does it solo?

exiled55555 · Apr 16, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Healing Hands is an elite from near the end of phroficies(thats y i said u could replace it cause u probally dont have it yet) and you could probally solo with it if u added criticle defences as the 8th skill solt(forget to mention that the last slot is an optional skills slot)You can probally farm meely monster but i use a different build for that.

Yanman.be · Apr 17, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00

You said to take out the elite skill. Nvm 8-).

viper11025 · Apr 19, 2007, 12:16 PM // 12:16

Sounds interesting.....Might give it a try.

exiled55555 · Apr 21, 2007, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

You said to take out the elite skill. Nvm 8-).

I said u can replace the elite skill because if he is at senji corner then he probally is not at the end of the proficies campaigne.

Yanman.be · Apr 21, 2007, 07:40 AM // 07:40

True True...

Prof Of Black · Apr 21, 2007, 09:10 AM // 09:10

AP boa ftw:

Assasin's Promise
Flurry
Black lotus strike
Twisting Fangs
Black spider strike
Blades of steel
Crit defenses/ Expose defenses
Death's Charge

Easy useage, AP, deaths charge, combo.

Draco Angelus · Apr 21, 2007, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Seeping wound is a nice skill, but pales in comparision to others, you really don't need it anyway.

[skill]golden phoenix strike[/skill][skill]critical strike[/skill][skill]moebius strike[/skill][skill]horns of the ox[/skill] OR [skill]death blossom[/skill][skill]restful breeze[/skill][skill]vigorous spirit[/skill][skill]live vicariously[/skill][skill]rebirth[/skill]

radakk · Apr 21, 2007, 11:04 AM // 11:04

I need help with a really good pve build for my A/Mo im lvl 20 but i only have guild wars factions. So any really good factions assassin build would be great.

My only elite skill is Palm Strike.

Draco Angelus · Apr 21, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Dude, seriously, ever heard of the Edit button, don't post 5 consecutive times

Yanman.be · Apr 22, 2007, 08:33 AM // 08:33

Go and delete those. I'll delete this post after you did.

SotiCoto · Apr 24, 2007, 01:08 PM // 13:08

... Let me stress something quite heavily:

Moebius Strike.... excellent skill in many circumstances... but it has a major drawback:
It works at its optimum when the enemy is in that realm between having lost half its health and already being dead. Using it against weak enemies when your lead-in is something with a longer recharge like Black Spider Strike is an absolutely terrible idea as they will tend to die before you ever get to it... hence no recharge and your combo is out of action. If you're using it against strong enemies (or their bosses) then they might not even be knocked below 50% by the time you reach Moebius... hence once more no recharge if your Dual Attacks happen not to be quickly recharging.... and consequential combo shut-down.

Hence I'm tending to say that using Moebius Strike to recharge attack skills is infinitely inferior to using Assassin's Promise... especially if you're not fighting the legions of doom with mega armour and huge quantities of health.

On the flipside.... using Moebius Strike to spam Death Blossom (and the occasional Twisting Fangs to keep 'em hurting or Blinding Powder to stop them fighting back) is a freakin godsend.

I'd go for Assassin's Promise for general purpose PvE though (Cap from Xuekao the Deceptive in Pongmei Valley).
Only take Moebius Strike when you're fighting tougher enemies.....

And since you won't find it until you start coming across the tougher enemies in Factions anyway..... that isn't a problem.

Random disclaimer: If anyone has any complaints about what I'm doing.... I don't care. ^_^ ... Nobody has ever much liked my advice here.