Curse

madman24749 · Apr 21, 2007, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Yeah your actually quite right. . .
I didnt see many (if any) people complaining about how everything was before each of the majour updates
They should have concentrated on getting rid of bots more than changing the whole game I reckon, they were something being complained about

Flightmare · Apr 21, 2007, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Farming and chestrunning were my favourite aspects of PvE.
And the farming was allso for buying keys becouse my chest drops are mostly total crap and worth nothing...

I'm going to trial and error with some farming, and if I can't find a nice way to farm again, I'll guess it will be mostly PvP for me whats left of the game...

Swift Thief · Apr 21, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Woot, Solo Farming = Reborn!

Skinny Corpse · Apr 21, 2007, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Hmmz.. that's too bad about the loot, really.
The Hard Mode is pretty cool tho.

Guess I'll stick to GW until Age of Conan is out.. maybe.

kumarshah · Apr 21, 2007, 04:11 PM // 16:11

So, in Normal Mode the only viable farming places are UW, FOW, DoA, etc?

Roshi_ikkyu · Apr 21, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00

mawahahaha already found a few semi-decent farming places, true its not like before, but now we just need to farm smarter not harder!

Mawahahah and with all the rage farm quits I'm free to rule!

AscalonWarrior · Apr 21, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by kumarshah

So, in Normal Mode the only viable farming places are UW, FOW, DoA, etc?

No, every place is still viable, Gold items drop as often as before

cellardweller · Apr 22, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior

No, every place is still viable, Gold items drop as often as before

Awesome... getting 300-450g for each of those golds makes it all worthwhile...

I can see why anet think this might fix a problem, but the fact of the matter is, there is one less thing to do in the game now and the is less fun. I can only hope that they have the courage to revert the change if the bot nerf doesn't have a reasonable degree of success.

Cher_Lindrea · Apr 22, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Sure, great that they made the loot not scale on some items but if my ability to make money in the game depends on finding greens, golds and ectos, I'm not any better off than if they didn't bother to change it back. People say "If you want to make money, play the game." While I did enjoy some solo farming, I also do play the game and acquire most of my money by selling off junk white items and picking up gold pieces. Running in a guild group in SF, I'll net about 2400gp. With the keys alone for that area costing 750/ea, it hardly makes depending on group farms alone very viable. I really don't know what ANet was thinking.

Some people didn't like that someone could go out an wipe out a group of monsters in minutes flat by themselves. They are now thrilled that these people can no longer do this. The problem that I have with it is that this loot code affects you whether you kill everything in 2 mins and 6 spells flat, or if you spend 2 hours by yourself clearing the same monsters, pulling them one by one.

My play style usually relies upon questing by myself and then getting into groups for missions. As we all know, there is a pile of questing in the game. As a result I spend a lot of time playing alone. Not that chests or anything were worth my time before, but I am certainly not going to spend the money I am no longer making selling white junk items upon worthless chests where I have to spend money to get more junk at a monetary loss. I'm still trying to figure out how this all fits in with the whole casual gamer philosophy.

Merissa Dawson · Apr 22, 2007, 05:55 AM // 05:55

I don't get it...I played for about five hours today and got golds and purples all over the place.

I think it's been the best day for unintentional farming for me so far in GW, since I had a party of 8 + 16 minions and 2 pets...I think there might be a glitch if you farm with minions or something?
I wasn't farming, btw...just doing a random quest outside Chantry of Secrets.

kumarshah · Apr 22, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Yes, thats not farming.

bored-.-bored · Apr 22, 2007, 07:21 AM // 07:21

55hp has been reborn all you have to do is find a good spot im making 25k/hour since the update

Roshi_ikkyu · Apr 22, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by bored-.-bored

55hp has been reborn all you have to do is find a good spot im making 25k/hour since the update

SSSH Don't tell them 55 is still useful, let the live in there cookie cutter misery!

Beowulf1982 · Apr 22, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

everyone says gold drop rate has gone up, i have been farming now for almost 2 days straight, been farming solo, and with hench flagged away, with small group with large group. and i never gotten one gold not 1 for 2 days straight, it was extremly hard for me to get some money, cause i never get good drops, and now i cant even farm crap drops. this new update sucks the most of all

=HT=Ingram · Apr 22, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

I'm sorry but personally I think this is the best thing to happen to the game, Indeed I have played with more real people again since the Hard mode addition and drops are phenomenal for full parties. Heck We even got 3 ecto drops in freaking Tombs!!! Not to mention the numerous golds even on easy mode.

The Hard mod N00B areas are producing golds and tons of currency. If you go with a full party. If you go it alone you get squat as it should be. Why should anet reward someone for playing with themselves in a game that is by design suppose to be a multi player game?

DoA is Fabulous now. in hard mode with a full party it is absolutely the best drops in the game. It takes longer sure, but its really fun. Indeed we split up into two teams of 4 and was able to do just fine, and the drops were great.

Just about every Hard mode is encouraging people to play together again, and stop the farm bots from ruining the game further.

Deatharmony · Apr 22, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51

Erm ...
When we started playing gw, we've been taught that when in a party with henchies/heroes, they sorta "take" the loots that they deserved, just the same way any human player would in your party, except you dont see it. So the challenge was usually to go with a smaller team, which can sure be challenging in some places (ie uw).
I dont care much about ectos and gold mates, Im usually solofarming all mobs, and salvage all things except gold and purple (and Im not especially bored of that).
The only thing I dont get is : when you re playing alone, from this update, it s exactly as if there were 7 henchies stealing your loots and money.
It's simply illogical for me that the mobs drop loot one eight of time, or one fourth in hard mode ... while in a 8 humans team all people will get loots.
And I find it really a shame to try to get rid of bots or solo farmers by reducing the drop rate. Everyone knows that this wont lead bots to an end. They ll just need more time. Im just feeling stolen.

Sure Ill take the challenge to find some other farming spots, but there are 2 categories of people who will be gratefull towards the update:
- Kevin's, now they can farm with seven henchies and get the same loot than a solo farmer, I hope they'll chill out a bit
- ectos stockpillers, powertraders, wealth people because of the value increase of their items (Im not one of them).

Now, for the hardmode lmao, what dyou get ? new quests ? new monsters maybe ? nope sorry Sir, none of these. You only have to redo all of the 3 games with, wao, monsters higher lvl, which attack and cast faster. Great! but wait erm ... if I got 3 or 4 lvl20 toons then I ll have to finish the 3 games 3 or 4 times again ? Yes, but you ll also have to clean every single zone of all its mobs ... yoohoo so thrilling.

C'mon, I like to kill monsters, I like to get loots, but I dont see the point except for title farmers. Im sure some will say "go take the challenge". Erm elite zones are challenging. Is chainkilling all zones of a game a challenge as well ? It will be one for bot scripters at least Im sure of it.

If you want challenge go play D2LOD HC mode on. This update is a carrot imo, and sorry Im not a mule. Even the hard mode mobs are a joke. Anet havent made them smarter, they have made the normal ones dumber.

And again, reducing the drop rate is really a shame. In any mmo a mob drops 90% of time at least something. Arena must revise his mmo basis.

Just take a look at the carrot before you eat it mates.

Take care all

The Only Warrior · Apr 22, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Wow thats a mouth full,

and only normal loot has been "nerfed" as what i can tell, greens drop more often, ectos are unchanged, onlything i can tell is when your farming solo you might not get your 12-17dmg white sword, golds are up too(4 golds in 30 min from farming "Random Area Name")<---- wouldnt you like to know

and they always play with my head.... i just deleted my 55 monk v.v

wassup1444465 · Apr 22, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Ruphfus

Agree. Few of my guildies and I took some of our farming characters to different spots, In Proph, havent tried other campaigns yet. We did it in hard mode, all solo, and we all got the same results...

Every monster didn't drop loot, but on average 1/3 or 1/2 did, and when they did it was way better than the loot dropped in normal mode soloing.

2 Golds, a Black Dye, 2 Purples, and 1.7k in gold after one 15 minute run. In a very remote location in Proph. No mission or quest take you here, there is an outpost, and the farming is easy. Monsters are now level 24. heh.

Use your brains people, in hard mode, monsters that were level 12, are now level 24, you can farm places that were pointless before, but mad easy.

Two things. Are you referring to the minotaur outside of ice tooth cave in anvil rock? I was thinking about it for a few minutes and that seemed to make the most sense compared to your description.

My next thing is that I think people should try to farm the low level areas in hard mode now, as 1/4 drops in a party of 4 area is better than 1/8 in a party of 8 spot.

Drago the Vile · Apr 22, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Guild Wars gets worse and worse with almost every major update they do.

Apok Omen · Apr 22, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Well, to those who like to cry and moan about something instead of taking action, I have this to say... 4 ectos in one run, woot!!!!

Seriously, whenever something bad happens, half of the community goes on strike, even though its worthless as Anet's word is law. Live with it.