Curse

ArKaiN · Apr 20, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Sensual_Angel

Pretty much to the point, lol. Seems A-net doesn't care about it's customers anymore.

no, "lol".
It seems anet listens to their clients and is making the game more party-pased, and not the non-multiplayer RPG it is for some people.
Who among us haven't heard "This sucks, I completed 5 missions with heroes and had no fun" or something to that effect?
They're pushing farming in parties and PLAYING the game instead of being a human bot. Is that a bad thing?

lennymon · Apr 20, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

riiiight
Yaknow, the *only* reason I ever started solo farming was because I was bored. Hard mode way more than adequately replaces that... So for any of you that are leaving, can I have all your stuff?

Tannim · Apr 20, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Yeah, the main reason for guild wars were the instance areas to prevent pkers,and loot stealers. Now, AN decided to go along the lines of CM and screw over the whole game. They might as well get rid of the instances part of the game.

scottbigboy · Apr 20, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Ok i think alot of people are missing the point here.
This is not about solo`ers v team players
I am an avid guild wars fan and have been playing since it was 1st released, i have 8 chars and have got them through all 3 campaigns and they all have the prof elites so i`m not adverse to team missions etc,,
But i also love to farm solo .

Now the point is ask yourself WHY MAKE SUCH A FUNDEMENTAL CHANGE to gws after 3 campaigns( funny as gw2 around the corner), after all its been 2 years weve all been soloing now.

The point is after 2 years nearly of playing guild wars i`m now being told how to play the game ( which now is fairly 1 dimensional i,e, pug play or guild play in teams) I`f id have known this b4 factions/nightfall i would have seriously considered not purchasing them.

So basically whether u like team play or like soloing anet have taken the CHOICE factor out of the game .
And just to confirm i like both styles of gameplay so i`m not here to justify one way or the other i`m just letting my opinion known.
I for one will not be purchasing gwen if this stays the same, and no matter what u say about better drops hard mode etc i`ve tried it, and i hate the idea of spending hours upon hrs looking for a decent pug group only to fail at the final hurdle, at least b4 i could take a break and go soloing

And there will be without doubt alot people not agreeing saying well good riddance to me but hey it seems that i`m not alone and if we all go that can only have a detremental effect on guild wars so i do hope for the sake of guild wars this problem is resolved because while most of us have been hooked on gws for the last 2 years there have been and will be others games coming out.........

Gredinus · Apr 20, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Umm they are, with GW2.

Zabe · Apr 20, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Well, from my part my Guild Wars playing just got lacked nearly 40 hours per week or something. Two things I do in game is farm titangems with margrid and GvG. They took the first one off. You kill 14 mobs in that 2-3 minutes and get 4 items (those 100g stacks counted in for that), allways.

I already thought that ectos will go up, high. End game armors, obsidian armors and tormented items will be really hard to get. Ofcourse this might make bigger parties more popular, but to be honest, it won't be farming anymore then.

I used to farm a lot of that margonite + titan group in foundry, farmed over 7 million xp, 20k lightbringer points and 2 armbraces.

Still in my opinion, theres no reason to do this kind of nerf.

Update was perfect to me otherwise. PvE side of GW has been like running from place A to place B forever, hard mode brought a good choice for those old underworld, DoA, urgoz, deep and fow.

scottbigboy · Apr 20, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by Gredinus

Umm they are, with GW2.

I agree so maybe thats why anet eventually will spoil gws completely but hey thats just life and its only a game right :P

Badboy Thrasher · Apr 20, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

IMO bad change - farming was nerfed enough as it was...Have to give up on the dream on Obsidian armor, anet just killed a part of me

Gredinus · Apr 20, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Anet did say that they will support GW1 as long as ppl play it.
This statement + this nerf = they are trying to get rid of us.

Dinkytowner · Apr 20, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Wow and I thought the 6v6 vs 8v8 whining was bad.

Go play the game. They increased the value of the drops in normal party sizes so in theory you should get better crap when you're just running around killing stuff. There are screenies all over the forums of ppl getting tons of loot just working on the vanquisher title track. Stop QQing and play... Or leave. Click on over to the HoH forum and see how much they care if ppl threaten to leave the game. They got your money, deal with the changes or stop wasting your time grinding.

Dusk_ · Apr 20, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by Dinkytowner

Wow and I thought the 6v6 vs 8v8 whining was bad.

Go play the game. They increased the value of the drops in normal party sizes so in theory you should get better crap when you're just running around killing stuff. There are screenies all over the forums of ppl getting tons of loot just working on the vanquisher title track. Stop QQing and play... Or leave. Click on over to the HoH forum and see how much they care if ppl threaten to leave the game. They got your money, deal with the changes or stop wasting your time grinding.

Guess what, farming is still playing the game. Time you realized that. Otherwise 1 person parties wouldn't be allowed.

And "tons of loot" with the vanquisher title? Increased value? All of those screenshots show crap that's barely twice the normal "playing" drops. Cashflow = 1/8th of what it was before, and Hard Mode made it 1/4. Yes, everyone should be very happy about this...

keli · Apr 20, 2007, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by Dusk_

Guess what, farming is still playing the game. Time you realized that. Otherwise 1 person parties wouldn't be allowed.

And "tons of loot" with the vanquisher title? Increased value? All of those screenshots show crap that's barely twice the normal "playing" drops. Cashflow = 1/8th of what it was before, and Hard Mode made it 1/4. Yes, everyone should be very happy about this...

You can still farm with heroes, just flag them near the wall and go..

ArKaiN · Apr 20, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by keli

You can still farm with heroes, just flag them near the wall and go..

doesn't work.

aindrei · Apr 20, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Something is wrong with this game. Why would you want to annoy your players like this? Maybe they would care more if there was a montly fee.

I am a casual player and I really hate these anti farming changes. I don't really believe GW has a farming problem. If something isn't broken don't fix it.

I bought 2 campains but this is the end. No more money from me ANet.

LifesRestorer · Apr 20, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

i think this change is a way to make people play in groups. before people didnt because they wouldnt get drops. complaining about not getting rich because you cant get an 8man group is stupid, you havnet seen how things will work. people will be forced to play in groups, bringing back the spirit of team play.

imo, this is a good change. GG anet

Age · Apr 20, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

Solo farmers will be hurting, but 4-man farming groups will still see action me thinks.

I have done well atleast 1 run in the UW with 4 pll in a trapping group.I got really nothing except a few golds and white this before the Update it was on the free Weekend to the UW and FoW.I will just say this is is going to take me a lot longer to get my Monks FoW armour and other armours for my other chars.My sore rear.

jbwarrior · Apr 20, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

The Locked Chest, drop pretty good 5/1--> Gold wins from purple

I think that this update is also good, now you can finally find a party and maybe you can clear out al of UW or FOW, or what area you want into hard mode.
I did a solo (E/Me from koning's build) smite run in normal mode and had no drops, no ecto's no golds, no purple. I had a total of 345G and after selling some stuff to the merchant I came at 542G

. I tried it into hard mode---> indeed it's hard those Bladed (lvl32) has a speed boost i quess, but i managed to kill 1 group of Grasp (lvl30), had a gold war axe (req12)

, after that i got killed. So solo is NOT dead if you solo in HM, otherwise try some old places with a full group of heroes/hench and flag them out of side (grey area)--> like more ppl said.

Happy Farming

Str0b0 · Apr 20, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

Bye bye farm wars hello guild wars. finally.

Are you kidding me? LoL. This is a windfall for farmers, they just don't realize it yet. If you think prices and farming was bad prior to this then wait till you see what happens when the supply shrinks down to a negligible level due to increased drop rarity. Unfortunately, as I've been saying, the only people this really effects are people who are already struggling with the current price system. Those of us with loot will only see our buying power increase and any farming we do will become more profitable since I can now justify charging twice the normal price for an item based simply upon its increased rarity. Demand for the farmed items has not decreased. All the little grubby fingered wannahaves still wanna have it. The only thing they have done, economically speaking, is take those hard to get items and put them up on a higher shelf.

Kas · Apr 20, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

I feel pity for those that have the strong belief that now all of a sudden all the farmers will "repent" and return to full parties. Are you really that naive? Well I fear you are but there might stll be hope.
Most farmers had specifically raised characters for the sole purpose of farming. In fact many of the 55 HP Monks never had more skills than their typical skillset. Well I think I should really join PUGs now. With a 55 HP Setup. And if they complain I'll just point at them and tell them "your doing". Sounds like griefing? Sure is. Just as much as people plopping into this thread, bashing all farmers simply because daddy (A-Net) gave them the wrong sign.

I don't even care if farming was an unintended way to play the game. All I care for is that it was a fun way to play. And if something unintended is more fun to many players than the actual game, well you know.. it's not the fault of the unintended flaw but the more than shallow gaming experience otherwise.
Any company that deliberately and intentionally removes huge heaps of fun from their game just to cater to some drop dead broken ideal (aka communism) is completely ouf of their mind. A-Net has a happy history of removing things that people consider fun for the sake of... who really knows. Atleast they don't discriminate. PVP gets f*cked, PVE gets f*cked likewise. Critics about the fubars are ignored and later on even downright mocked with statemens like "majority of forum posts was veeeeryyyy happy with the change" which can be quite easily proven nonsense by looking into the threads concerning the matter.

scottbigboy · Apr 20, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Dinkytowner

Wow and I thought the 6v6 vs 8v8 whining was bad.

Go play the game. They increased the value of the drops in normal party sizes so in theory you should get better crap when you're just running around killing stuff. There are screenies all over the forums of ppl getting tons of loot just working on the vanquisher title track. Stop QQing and play... Or leave. Click on over to the HoH forum and see how much they care if ppl threaten to leave the game. They got your money, deal with the changes or stop wasting your time grinding.

If u had`nt noticed dinkywinky this is the farming section and i take it a section of the game u don`t agree with ,well thats fine but please don`t come in here and slate us farmers for a part of the game we love.
And if u bothered to read this thread about peoples concerns u would realise its about more than just some people getting gold drops (in groups of i i hastened to add).

Oh and what do we care about hoh, what percentage of gws players do u think play hoh over say pve.

So really if u don`t have a valid point apart from having a dig at genuine people who pay money to enjoy something for having a valid gripe then please keeps your opinions to yourself ty