Curse

Wickie · Apr 26, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Pictures say more than words

This is in hardmode!!!!!!

Evenstar · Apr 26, 2007, 03:05 PM // 15:05

what the hell how? or you just killed them one by one?

AOD_EaSyKiLL · Apr 26, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

I think that Ungrateful Slave farm does say quite a bit towards the kill rate affecting the drop rate. I farm it with SoJ on my monk and when you get a group with a bunch of warriors, I get way more drops than if it is a group of mostly casters. The only logical reason is because of the difference in time between deaths on the warriors due to the running away to heal. I'll get at least a 75% drop from melee there and probably 25% on the casters.

Depending on how the first group spawns, it is an ideal testing ground. If it spanws 3 or less melee and rest caster, I notice real low drops, since they all die about the same time. When it spawns reversed with 3 or so casters and the rest melee, I get alot more drops.

Sk8tborderx · Apr 26, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42

This is what I got after only 5 runs, each run only takes 6 minutes, and it kills a group at the same time. (Dead sword farm, only picked up money, purple, and golds.)

FoxBat · Apr 26, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Let me add that I believe kill rate only affects junk drops, purple and below, the stuff we are told is affected by loot scaling. I did get a gold on one of my mass kill runs, so a screenshot full of golds from a fast kill doesn't really disagree with this; the question is where your junk drops are.

It also seems like hard mode just generally drops gold more often whether solo or in full groups, so that factor needs to be taken into account as well.

Levi Garett · Apr 26, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

In my testing using EoE I definately see a decrease of drops when everything dies at the same time. When I take out EoE I start getting more loot and more rares.

Darksun · Apr 26, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by Correct Jeans

I really dont think it matters. lol. its all in ur heads.

This is likely the case. I am hesitant to say one way or another because I cannot trust my own thoughts on it. I would tend to say kill rate effects drops, but It could very well be that I'm pissed about not getting what I want.

ThaAlchemy · Apr 26, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

well, from what i can tell, normal mode ecto drop rate is the lowest ive ever seen. 6 runs, 1 ecto, im not sure i want to bother with it anymore tbh... *waits for someone to tell me i was just had a bad day*

Nemo the Capitalist · Apr 27, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Start solo VwK in Gyala hatchery u can get jade swords there..j/k

mwpeck · Apr 27, 2007, 01:37 AM // 01:37

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Originally Posted by ThaAlchemy

well, from what i can tell, normal mode ecto drop rate is the lowest ive ever seen. 6 runs, 1 ecto, im not sure i want to bother with it anymore tbh... *waits for someone to tell me i was just had a bad day*

I disagree with that...as in being worse then ever.....before hard mode came out, I (within 2 months before hard mode) did about 15 solo UW runs, I never got a single ecto.....and maybe 2 golds for all the runs. Again, that is within 2 months before hard mode came out.

Aksharack · Apr 27, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

I'm curious if any other farmers have noticed any anti-farm measures since hard mode was introduced.

Initially I noted nothing.. did run after run in Maddock getting golds nearly everytime. The the first couple of hour stints I did at this went fine ,no farm code, Yay!

Today, however, I've noticed my drops getting progressively worse. Farming Maddock, I now seem to get no golds at all.. what finally cut it for me was the white tattooed scimitar after 13 runs of not a single gold or purple in HM. I logged out.

Got back on, gold first run.. alright, just a streak of really bad luck. But after that my drops were the same. Bad.

Just did some runs in Zhelons, different char a few hours after that. Great drops at first.. then purples... then progressively less. Just wondered if any one else whose been farming pretty hardcore the past few days has noticed this. It didn't happen right away, this took several hours to build up. I could just be paranoid, but...

Thom Bangalter · Apr 27, 2007, 05:15 AM // 05:15

I've experienced the same thing on my necro around arkjok ward. Kill 6 monkies at once? 1 drop. Kill two corsairs in consecutive order? 2 drops.

Firebaall · Apr 27, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Yup, I really think Anet is feeding us a line of Bull***t. I can also confirm that they have some sort of anti farm code still operating. In Hard Mode, at first I was getting stunning drops. After several runs tonight back to back, it's very much been killed off.

ArKaiN · Apr 27, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Would it really surprise anyone if they reintroduced the farming code with the patch they set up on the 20th? (the "oops we screwed up" patch)

Cassandra · Apr 27, 2007, 08:11 AM // 08:11

My opinion is that they just eliminated the "repeated area anti-farming code" with a more general "drop quality decrease over time spent".

Or if you prefer..... for a line in the Game Updates telling they removed an anti-farming code, there's at least two more invisible lines describing the new anti-farm code they've inserted xDDDD

Hengis · Apr 27, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11

I have to say that my experience matches that of the O/P as well.

I was messing about with the corsairs at Moddock, and changing the build every couple of runs. Without doubt, the faster you kill them, the less they drop. If they die one at a time with a gap between each death you get consistently more (although not necessarily better) drops.

This feels like something similar to the soul reaping nerf code is being used to reduce drops.

Of course, it could just be random, but to me it feels otherwise.

Ishana · Apr 27, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone

I have to say that my experience matches that of the O/P as well.

I was messing about with the corsairs at Moddock, and changing the build every couple of runs. Without doubt, the faster you kill them, the less they drop. If they die one at a time with a gap between each death you get consistently more (although not necessarily better) drops.

This feels like something similar to the soul reaping nerf code is being used to reduce drops.

Of course, it could just be random, but to me it feels otherwise.

Same situation as you though...tested a few rounds

die all at once....1 white.....die one by one.....at least something more

Zolderick · Apr 27, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14

I used to do Tusked Howler farming in Nightfall and I would get roughly 1.5k per run. Now I only get 500g per run.

tamirxd · Apr 28, 2007, 01:07 AM // 01:07

this is my ecto rate[solo necro],this is the normal mode stats,killing aataxe and smites.
First run 4 ectos.
Second run 3 ectos.
Third run 3 ectos.
In Hard Mode:
First run 3 ectos[After i killed something like 4-6 aataxe].
If the drop sucks for you guys make a mission or 2 it will improve your drop rate[I did 2 hour run with no ecto, then did 2 mission and as you can see above its MUCH better].

ThaAlchemy · Apr 28, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by tamirxd

this is my ecto rate[solo necro],this is the normal mode stats,killing aataxe and smites.
First run 4 ectos.
Second run 3 ectos.
Third run 3 ectos.
In Hard Mode:
First run 3 ectos[After i killed something like 4-6 aataxe].
If the drop sucks for you guys make a mission or 2 it will improve your drop rate[I did 2 hour run with no ecto, then did 2 mission and as you can see above its MUCH better].

I thought you didnt have to "clear" any "code" anymore.