Curse

Red-Tide · Apr 20, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

Frustration thread!

Arms of insanity can spawn at will in Nightfallen Jahai, they use Lightning Reflexes and them call to torment and its damn near impossible to stop. In a matter of minutes you could have 1/2 dozen Arms to deal with (plus the rest of the mob).

I really dont think Call to Torment is necessary with lvl 30 demons.

I love the addition of hard mode and am having much fun with it, but my complaint above, I feel is valid. Arms of Insanity are insanely powerful in hard mode.

Anyone else encounter this thus far?

RTSFirebat · Apr 20, 2007, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Yeah I seen this first hand. Spike of Nightbringer's Gaze does them in, but doesn't help when your soloing with henchmen.

Neriandal Freit · Apr 20, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Just keep in mind - ANET is going to be observing these sort of things an make necessary changes to everything.

EPO Bot · Apr 20, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Rigor mortis seems mandatory.

Juicey Shake · Apr 20, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48

wild blow + enchant removal is gg

Sub Frost · Apr 20, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Call to Torment isnt new, so there's pretty much no way they would have removed it in hard mode.

But getting to the problem u mention, theres a... lets say... "efficient" way to deal with Arms of insanity...

eggs0wn · Apr 20, 2007, 02:04 PM // 14:04

Wild Blow is you friend

Fr_3_aK · Apr 20, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

they take double dmg in Call to torment.... obviously your build is lacking dmg

flipfly2004 · Apr 20, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

in elona, wild blow is my best friend ^^

perfect · Apr 20, 2007, 02:21 PM // 14:21

ANET! I've always though Call to Torment should not be a shout but a skill that takes time to cast so you can interrupt it! PD mesmers would be the new shiz in torment.

Tarkin · Apr 20, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by Fr_3_aK

they take double dmg in Call to torment.... obviously your build is lacking dmg

Arms of insanity are a pain in the ass...

The combo is troll ungument + light reflexes + call or torment + ranger armor + bonus against elemental damage... they are hard to kill and a danger to henchs and heros because Barrage...

I kill monks, eles, necros, mesmers, other classes, rangers torments in this order to at end focus damage only in ranger, spread heros and henchs with flags.

1 arm not a real problem
2 arms a problem
3 big trouble
4 forget

Jetdoc · Apr 20, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Originally Posted by perfect

Call to Torment should be a skill that takes time to cast so you can interrupt it!

Absolutely. They could reduce the cast time to 2 seconds but make it interruptable...that would create a bit more strategy than is currently involved in those areas.

Red-Tide · Apr 20, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Originally Posted by Fr_3_aK

they take double dmg in Call to torment.... obviously your build is lacking dmg

You obviously dont know what Lightning reflexes does - For 5...10 seconds, you have a 75% chance to "block" melee and projectile attacks, and you attack 33% faster.

Making double damage all but useless...

And yes time to equip my heroes with Wild Blow - until now I only brought it when absolutley necessary.

Cebe · Apr 20, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03

I also kill the arms last. If you try to kill them first the hench sometimes break off and start targetting other things, and the arms just multiply and multiply. By taking everything else out first you can have the hench target the stupid arms with more reliability.

Arkantos · Apr 20, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Arm of Insanity's are very annoying, especially in hard mode, but their easy to counter. Lightning Reflexes does nothing to stop hexes/spells, and wild blow > stances.

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you could have 1/2 dozen Arms to deal with (plus the rest of the mob).

Then kill then last.

Ferret · Apr 20, 2007, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Call to Torment has always been overpowered anyway, let alone having it in hard mode.
If there was ever a skill in need of a nerf, this is it. It needs to be interruptable or have a longer duration before spawning.

Tarkin · Apr 20, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by Ferret

Call to Torment has always been overpowered anyway, let alone having it in hard mode.
If there was ever a skill in need of a nerf, this is it. It needs to be interruptable or have a longer duration before spawning.

Nice Ferret...

EPO Bot · Apr 20, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

"The good thing about being me is that there are so many of me!"

As long as the bosses don't use it i won't complain. It's still hard mode after all.

tyche7 · Apr 20, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

I agree it's unnneeded in hard mode. Or put a cap on it that a clone can't clone and only an original could clone itself... ?? Just an idea.

jammerpa · Apr 20, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Hehe, STOP BITCHING about hard mode. Jeeze, it's called hard mode for a reason and I love the pve challenge.

You wanna be able to steam roll over everything with ur hero's/henchies then do normal mode. Otherwise, use your brain and select from the 100's of skills and find a way to beat it.... like me.