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Old Mar 28, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32   #1
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Hi dear fellowship,

Please find on wiki the build I have submitted and that has been accepted recently:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:A/E_UW_Farmer

Please join the discussion and testing, as I think that there is still room for improvement.

Cheers.
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 12:08 PM // 12:08   #2
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It does work, but its much faster if you do it with a terra tank.
The whole point of farming is killing everything you're meant to kill then restart, so I'm not putting my galigord's down just yet
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01   #3
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It does work, but its much faster if you do it with a terra tank.
The whole point of farming is killing everything you're meant to kill then restart, so I'm not putting my galigord's down just yet
Yes maybe, but not everyone has a Terra Tank...and the A have the right to farm the UW as well...

This build do the job, that's all about it...and the version of the E/Mo from which it is inspired is faster than your terra tank anyway...
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 01:08 PM // 13:08   #4
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Men I got to say it....


I Love u

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by the way how long do u usualy take?
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53   #5
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by the way how long do u usualy take?
between 20 to 25 minutes, I guess...I did not really check, was still very happy that it works!
it really depends of the smites patrols location, and how brave you are to take more than one group at a time.

And, thx for the love!
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04   #6
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...and the version of the E/Mo from which it is inspired is faster than your terra tank anyway...
No, it was never faster. You are only making sure all smites are killed in 1 shot because you do more damage, but killing in 1 shot is also still possible and very easy with e/me (but ppl might think e/mo is better because they can't do e/me) . but we are not gonna discus that here
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30   #7
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Yes maybe, but not everyone has a Terra Tank...and the A have the right to farm the UW as well...

This build do the job, that's all about it...and the version of the E/Mo from which it is inspired is faster than your terra tank anyway...
so? make one. It takes what, 10 hours to level an E to 20? And you get to cap sandstorm along the way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcoD1gQ8o98
This is how we do it. And no, E/mo isn't faster. Nothing is.
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03   #8
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so? make one. It takes what, 10 hours to level an E to 20? And you get to cap sandstorm along the way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcoD1gQ8o98
This is how we do it. And no, E/mo isn't faster. Nothing is.
That's really a strong statement...I will not be so sure...

10 hours during which I can be farming UW with my A...no thx!
And concerning your video, it's clearly a fake! He gets a gold from a coffer, impossible!!

Ok, without joking, there is a cut in the video near 5:10, where you can see some smites are running away, and then instantly the next scene show him without any smites around, so he just cuts out a part of the run, when he has to managed some smites remaining.
perhaps not so long, but still some time to add to the run which is not counted here...
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 04:13 PM // 16:13   #9
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That's really a strong statement...I will not be so sure...

10 hours during which I can be farming UW with my A...no thx!
And concerning your video, it's clearly a fake! He gets a gold from a coffer, impossible!!

Ok, without joking, there is a cut in the video near 5:10, where you can see some smites are running away, and then instantly the next scene show him without any smites around, so he just cuts out a part of the run, when he has to managed some smites remaining.
perhaps not so long, but still some time to add to the run which is not counted here...
This isn't theory, my friend. I do this almost every night. I say it's the fastest farmer because all the time you spend not killing is time you spend gathering mobs to kill. With zero downtime. Yes, he might have cut some walking or gathering of foes, but he never stops with 20 life waiting for natural regen to kick in -_-
Btw- if you miss the timing slightly, smites do run away.
Only they don't have energy because of visage. so they run back to you right after. And aftershock has quick recharge.

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Old Mar 28, 2007, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #10
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tested all afternoon and I can say its great


7 runs

2 lost because I was stupid and didnt use shadow form before agro then got interrupted..

2 lost because accidentaly agroed the stupid aataxe that follows u all arround UW

3 got there and killed 4 groups of smites in each... didnt kill more because of DNM

result:

4 ectos


3> xD xD xD
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07   #11
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This isn't theory, my friend. I do this almost every night. I say it's the fastest farmer because all the time you spend not killing is time you spend gathering mobs to kill. With zero downtime. Yes, he might have cut some walking or gathering of foes, but he never stops with 20 life waiting for natural regen to kick in -_-
You may look closely to the build, as with Feigned Neutrality, I'm not waiting for natural regen, but with a +7 and +80 armor...and concerning the downtime, it is not even noticeable as you are taking the recharge time of meteor shower and shadow form to walk and gather the smites.
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Old Mar 28, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #12
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i like it ^^
im gonna try it after i get my legendary survivor ^^
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Old Mar 29, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42   #13
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for those interested:

if the patrol aataxe follows you, its possible to kill him

1 - hide behind benton in a way that later the aataxe can be bloked between u and the ghost.

2 - meteor him and use shadow form. Run torwards him and body block him

3 - Use all ur dmg skills (ever flame dijins) as soon as they are recharged.

4 - when shadow form is about to end run again behind ghost and start wanding the aataxe.

5 - w8 until u have mana and all skils recharged

6 - repeat 2 and 3.

7 - aataxe dead

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Old Apr 03, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53   #14
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Im at work now so i cant test it out,but can this build be used 2 farm the slaves for the dead swords quest?bcos so far i havent seen any assasin builds for that,might be worth giving it a shot.

Nice build nonetheless,will try it 2nite.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39   #15
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Tested it and it works for farming dead swords with king jahnus
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09   #16
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You need to put the build here, since they are deleting all Wiki builds in a month.
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Old Apr 05, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38   #17
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Works like a charm Thanks for sharing
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Old Apr 05, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54   #18
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Hi there,

Here is the build

Attributes:
  • Shadow Arts: 12+1+3
  • Fire Magic: 12

Skills:

[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill][skill]Shadow Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Elemental Power[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Bed of Coals[/skill][skill]Lava Font[/skill][skill]Feigned Neutrality[/skill]

Weapons:
* Radiant or Shrouded Armor.
* 20% enchanting, +5 energy weapon, such as a Totem Axe. Wand or Staff, max damage rec. fire to deal with Dying Nightmares.
* +12 energy rec. fire focus.

Usage:

Walk up and take the quest from the Lost Soul. Watch out for any Dying Nightmare popping up.

Then cast in this order:

* Fire Attunement

wait to get max energy back...

* Flame Djinn's Haste
* Shadow Form

Usage:

Then quickly grab one or two groups of graspings and run back. Then cast skills in this order:

* Glyph of Elemental Power
* Meteor Shower
* Bed of Coals
* Lava Font
* Flame Djinn's Haste
* Feigned Neutrality

There should be no survivors amongst the graspings. If they are any graspings remaining, they are at this time fleeing from your AoE damage, so Feigned Neutrality should give you sufficient defense and life back to stay alive in order to recast one or two offensive spells to finish them or wanding them. You have a 24s invulnerability with Shadow Form on for the pull and the killing, so you can take your time to insure your AoE spike.

Another option for the bravest, is to cast Fire Attunement + Shadow Form and to go straight ahead into the big group of graspings, Bladed Aatxes and an eventual Dying Nightmare, and then unleash hell on them, finishing the graspings off with Flame Djinn's Haste and running away with the speed boost after the spike (because the Bladed Aatxes are not really friendy!).

Once all the graspings have been eliminated, do the typical run to the smites using Flame Djinn's Haste. You can make a stop just before passing the arch if you have misjudged the path of Bladed Aatxes or graspings and Dying Nightmare patrol. If a Dying Nightmare pops up while you run and follow you, just pull him in a safe place and while going close kill him with a Flame Djinn's Haste burst. Anytime during the run you can use Shadow Form if you find yourself in danger (remind that you should be far from danger at the end of Shadow Form), with a 24s duration time (with a +20% enchanting) you should have plenty of time to reach the smites area.

In order to pull large groups of smites or while waiting before they are all balled up around you, you can start by using Feigned Neutrality to assure some good defense and survival. Then cast the skills:

* Shadow Form
* Glyph of Elemental Power
* Meteor Shower
* Bed of Coals
* Lava Font
* Flame Djinn's Haste
* Feigned Neutrality (that should be reloaded even if used in the beginning of the pull)

If any smites survives, do the same tactics as stated above for graspings or if anything goes really bad, you still can run away with Flame Djinn's Haste. Keep Fire Attunement up while casting fire spells as it's your only energy managment.

For the Coldfire Nights, your best solution is to avoid them, but if you get caught, this build is safer than any other one, cast Shadow Form and stay far as they use Frozen Burst, the only spell that can hit you through Shadow Form and slow you down. Then hit your running enchantment and go out of their reach.

Cheers.
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Old Apr 05, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16   #19
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perfect very nice, will look for any improvements after i run it a few times tonight.
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Old Apr 10, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55   #20
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nice job! Runs take around 12-15 minutes for me(+5-7 if stuff goes wrong @ smites). 3-4 minutes of that is killing graspings/running.
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