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Vex · Nov 27, 2006, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Secondary dosnt matter?

Scourgey · Nov 27, 2006, 09:32 AM // 09:32

I don't see how this build is able to deal with Knockdown. A good tank has to be able to deal with this in some form.

And for a tank you need as many hitpoints as possible. That's the whole point, if something goes wrong you want to be able to live without a healer for as long as possible.

byteme! · Nov 27, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by Scourgey

I don't see how this build is able to deal with Knockdown. A good tank has to be able to deal with this in some form.

And for a tank you need as many hitpoints as possible. That's the whole point, if something goes wrong you want to be able to live without a healer for as long as possible.

Can't remember name but Dervishes have a skill to counter knockdown. Any other tank comparisons you wanna bring up?

Vex · Nov 27, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

heh its not to bad on solo PvE either. I went out and just killed random things and did real well...just gotta be quick and watch when your enchants ware off so that you can re enchant however most everything dies before that happens. Alot of fun not to mention you look cool when you have avatar of Balth up lol. Style points are allways a bonus

Nice build.

One more thing also remember vital boon boosts hp aswell so even if you loose hp you still gain those back with vital boon which also has a quick recharge time just keep it up and you should do ok.

Scourgey · Nov 27, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

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Originally Posted by byteme!

Can't remember name but Dervishes have a skill to counter knockdown. Any other tank comparisons you wanna bring up?

You are thinking of Fleeting stability which he hasn't put in. This is necessary in FOW, unless you like being KD constantly by the Abyssals (which you can't afford to be with dervish as you need to recast enchantments).

Warrior tanks bring dolyaks signet, balanced stance is pretty crap for tanking as skeletial mobs in FOW use wild blow.

Also Shatter enchantment is nasty in FOW. You can't really want to afford a shatter enchant spike which not only will remove your defensive abilities, but will also cause damage. Which is why you should not have superior runes.

Not saying this build cannot tank, I'm saying it's not as reliable as a FOW warrior tank with dolyaks in FOW (which is what the topic is about)

Arkantos · Nov 27, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08

Pre cast some enchantments, go tank the abyssal. If you have a decent group he'll be dead after 1 Earth Shaker.

Lord Sojar · Nov 29, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Pre cast some enchantments, go tank the abyssal. If you have a decent group he'll be dead after 1 Earth Shaker.

Bingo! Arkantos has got the idea down. And btw, this tank actually deals, get this, DAMAGE. With avatar of balth, you deal holy dmg to the skeleton army. Thus, you can actually dish out some decent dmg whilst the rest of your group deals with some break offs.

@ Comments on shatter enchantment. Yeh, it hurts, that is why you put up you fastest recharging enchantments LAST, so you can simply reapply them. Vital boon then Mystic Regen. So they shatter both.... whoopty do, put them back up. Continue tanking. Abyssals, lol, KD. Ignore it, your enchants last 20 seconds or more (with +20% enchant mod). Cast right at aggro circle, run in, your group should drop the nasty KDers within 10-15 secs if they are a well organized good group.

Hope this clarifies some of the flamers nit-picks about the build. This build, sadly, isnt quite as easy to run as the warrior tank with good ol dolak sig and watch yourself. Sorry to make a challenge.

moondog v1.0 · Dec 01, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

great build love it sooooooooooo much ty

The Juggerrnaught · Dec 14, 2006, 06:39 AM // 06:39

hey this build is really nice, but we all would surely like a video of this with explanations to noobs for how to manage the enchantments and how to deal with enchantment removal and by noobs i mean me and maybe couple more ppl :P

thank you for a kick ass build like this!!

Juggerrnaught

drupal · Dec 16, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28

It's really simple just try it on tengus or something, they shatter too. The order of you enchantments is important. Mystic regeneration should be always up so cast at first and Vital Boon can be used as a cover enchantment. If you want the full healing from Mystic Vigor roll them up to a tight bundle so that you can hit all 3 with attack.

WarKaster · Jan 15, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

i got a chance to use this build last night when a me and bunch of my guild members when FoW....... It was f-ing sweet....awesome build

guild boy · Jan 17, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

nice build!!

Just_ A_Nightmare · Feb 10, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

Would this build work as good inb general pve playin thru NF storyline as good as it does in FOW?

boarderx · Feb 12, 2007, 01:48 PM // 13:48

1st off I am loving this build especially in a 5 man FOW group (and ppl love me in their groups too).

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Originally Posted by Scourgey

You are thinking of Fleeting stability which he hasn't put in. This is necessary in FOW, unless you like being KD constantly by the Abyssals (which you can't afford to be with dervish as you need to recast enchantments).

well, i see your points but have you tried the build? It works wonders! the KD is a pain but isnt a problem (1/4 second casts FTW!) If ppl do have a problem there then its time for Fleeting Stability.

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Originally Posted by Scourgey

Also Shatter enchantment is nasty in FOW. You can't really want to afford a shatter enchant spike which not only will remove your defensive abilities, but will also cause damage. Which is why you should not have superior runes.

Shatter Enchatment doesnt affect this build enough where i even notice it, if enchtments are cast right and covered right then it can only help you (remove vital boon and i get healed anyway).

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Originally Posted by Scourgey

Not saying this build cannot tank, I'm saying it's not as reliable as a FOW warrior tank with dolyaks in FOW (which is what the topic is about).

again, i see your point but i dont agree with it. With a AL of 70+40+24 that is great for dmg reduction as a tank (i find that i charge into groups with out using my Avatar even) the monk loves me cuz i can self suffice for a bit while the aggro gets locked on me. Dolyaks also practically freezes you in place (thumbs down).

Again you made valid points but the evidence is in the build. Try the build, it work awesome, then after the party leaves i'll go solo parts of the beach. Cuz not only does this have self healing, armor buffs, and energy managment, it also deals great amounts of damage (avatar of balth is awesome vs the undead army, hitting for 100+).

silent but true · May 23, 2007, 02:46 PM // 14:46

gr8 idea I mite try ur build or alter my v high regen fow build 2 hav some of your skills

phool · May 23, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

I'm more partial to shadow form tanks in FoW so no monks are needed but yeah, played 5 man with a guy running this build and it went very fast. I don't see why you recommend blessed, not windwalker?

Every time i lag · May 23, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

no sup runes and its fine xd

Nkah Sennyt · May 23, 2007, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Necro nono.