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Uzadon · Mar 18, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Hi everyone, I have a level 19 ranger/necro. I just got full druid armor (+70 from droks), I'm wearing Markmanship mask with Superior Marksman rune. I'm halfway to level 20. I have a major vigor rune, so my hp's are 436. I do alot of playing with my buddy who is an level 20 elementalist and henchman. We don't have any of the expansions yet, just the basic game.

So my question is, what is a good high dps build? and what skills do i use? I have a level 15 pet but from what i've heard, using 2 skills to have your pet up isn't an effective way for ranger dps? I always have my rez signet up for when all the healer henchman die, so that would be losing 3 skill boxes.

I dont have any elite skills yet, i usually use the AOE necro Slow spell when there are alot of mobs, or when alot of them are beating on me or the healer. Is that a waste also?

Oh my 2 bows I use are as follows:

I carry around:

Fiery Flatbow of Warding
Fire damage: 15-28
Damage: +19% while health is below 50
Armor: +7 elemental
Damage: +20%

And when I think to hit f2 to switch weapon sets I switch to:

Graygore's Shortbow
Piercing: 15-28
Damage: +15% when health is above 50
Lifestealing: 5
health regen: -1
Marksman: +1
Damage: +20%

Thanks for any info you can give me.

Uzadon

Thom Bangalter · Mar 19, 2007, 02:04 AM // 02:04

unless you have a hammer and a pet, ranger DPS sucks. You could go the ol' quick shot/kindle arrows/conjure flame route, but I'd rather have a warrior.

Oh, barrage has excellent DPS.

ss1986v2 · Mar 19, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

firstly, welcome to the game and if you dont know about this site, this is your new bible: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page

secondly, you will usually find that on most non-caster classes, you are better off only using your secondary for utility skills. you dont have the energy to cast energy heavy skills in say the ele and necro lines. you are a ranger, stick to that.

since you only have prophecies, a lot of the newer and spiffier skills arent available to you, but there are still plenty to choose from. the one you will see come up the most is the elite skill

[skill]Barrage[/skill]

its a very good skill in certain situations, but sees a lot of hate because so many ppl run it everywhere and truly dont know how to use it or refuse to use anything else. but it still can be a powerful skill.

if you dont want to go barrage, kindle arrow along with conjure flame and some quick spammable attacks works nicely as well. but, as thom said, the ranger isnt the dps machine that a warrior can be unless you want to run a thumper build (R/W with a hammer and pet). make sure you dont neglect interrupt skills in an attempt to achieve a higher dps. you just end up gimping your build.

Gustin · Mar 19, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

You could also cap the elite Burning Arrow (no idea how you guys put the pictures in here...) and use that with Apply Poison. It puts out a nice amount of degeneration on your target and you'll mobs dying pretty quick.

m4rk6 · Mar 19, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Burning Arrow is, unfortunately, a Nightfall only skill.

Like what everyone else has already said, a ranger does not do DPS very well. In certain conditions Barrage shines, but that doesn't happen all the time. What rangers do well is be versatile, with one skill bar you can condition, degen, interrupt, escape, and possibly spike. Healing can be a bit iffy, but that's what a running skill is for.

Valshia · Mar 19, 2007, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Unfortunately you need Nightfall for Burning Arrow, and he says he doesn't have that. But yeah, Burning Arrow is great, especially in Hell's Precipice and Realm or Torment where Barrage isn't a good idea.

For the pictures, use the bb tag [ skill ]Skill Name[ /skill ], without the spaces in the brackets. Found out about it by accident when quoting a post for reply.

Franco Power · Mar 19, 2007, 10:08 AM // 10:08

Vampiric hornbow

[skill]Dual Shot[/skill]+[skill]Punishing Shot[/skill]

have fun

Toilet Oni · Mar 19, 2007, 10:43 AM // 10:43

Irresistible Blow
Hammer Bash
Crushing Blow
Bestial Mauling
Rampage as One
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Resurrection Signet

Expertise 8 + 1
Beast Mastery 10 + 1 + 2
Hammer Mastery 12

=High DPS

moko · Mar 19, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet Oni

Irresistible Blow
Hammer Bash
Crushing Blow
Bestial Mauling
Rampage as One
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Resurrection Signet

Expertise 8 + 1
Beast Mastery 10 + 1 + 2
Hammer Mastery 12

=High DPS

no, = high energy problems. 9 expertise..ARE YOU ON CRACK?!

Uzadon · Mar 19, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Thanks for your replies, damn i'm used to rangers in Everquest being high dps. =) Oh well, guess i'll have to try some of the other builds too, and get Nightfall. Should I skip Factions for now?

centur · Mar 19, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Imo you should get all 3 campaigns to be good. but NF should go first cause of [skill]Barbed Arrows[/skill] and [skill]Forked Shot[/skill]

Toilet Oni · Mar 19, 2007, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokone

no, = high energy problems. 9 expertise..ARE YOU ON CRACK?!

no, im not on CRACK^^
I don't have energy probs when using that build

wilebill · Mar 19, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Prophecies ... Punishing Shot Elite combines damage plus an interrupt. Poison Arrow Elite can be captured in Witman's Folly once you get to Droknar's Forge. Favorable Winds, Read the Wind, Penetrating Attack, and of course the ever popular Apply Poison, Barbed Trap, and Kindle Arrows. I leveled up with a pet, still have my old Melandru's Stalker. Beast Master with one arrow interrupt works pretty well too. Experiment with what is available and find out what works for you. A Ranger is a very versatile character with spirits, traps, a pet, and a bow, and interrupt capability too. Often, DPS is less important than interrupting.

Amy Awien · Mar 20, 2007, 07:30 AM // 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uzadon

So my question is, what is a good high dps build? and what skills do i use? I have a level 15 pet but from what i've heard, using 2 skills to have your pet up isn't an effective way for ranger dps?

Beastmaster builds have the highest DPS for rangers, either as Thumper or Enraged Lunge builds. Don't underestimate pets, damage wise. Their main drawback is that they are harder to control then a bow.

Higher damage bowattacks are Penetrating, Dual Shot, Quick Shot, Punishing Shot. Use preparations, Read the Wind and Kindle add straight damage, Ignite Arrows for AoE (try it with Judges Insight against undead), Apply Poison delivers significant damage, although it doesn't look spectacular. The nature rituals Favorable Winds and Winnowing add damage per arrow.

But also look at non-damage builds, rangers skilled in interrupts are frequently wanted. Rangers are more asked for their versatility then their high damage output.

samcobra · Mar 20, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21

I use for max dps:

[skill]glass arrows[/skill] [skill]savage shot[/skill] [skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]forked arrow[/skill][skill]marauder's shot[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill] or [skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Arothar · Apr 07, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

If you have factions, have fun with these,
only shines against groups though

[skill]Barrage[/skill] [skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill]

drupal · Apr 08, 2007, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

unless you have a hammer and a pet, ranger DPS sucks. You could go the ol' quick shot/kindle arrows/conjure flame route, but I'd rather have a warrior.

Please, don't talk shit. GftE/Splinter Barrager on mobs and Vow of Strength + RtW + Heket Rampage on single targets.

XvArchonvX · Apr 08, 2007, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Power

Vampiric hornbow

[skill]Dual Shot[/skill]+[skill]Punishing Shot[/skill]

have fun

This is for spike damage, but gives very weak actual dps.

For actual pure raw dps, use another profession. However, you can still use Apply Poison + Burning Arrow for good damage and degen which acts as passive dps that allows for concentration on interuption (one of the ranger profession's strongest points).

Kali Magdalene · Apr 08, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustin

You could also cap the elite Burning Arrow (no idea how you guys put the pictures in here...) and use that with Apply Poison. It puts out a nice amount of degeneration on your target and you'll mobs dying pretty quick.

[skill]Burning Arrow[/skill]

Just do it like:
Skill in [ ]
Skill name
/skill in [ ]

You can always hit reply to see a post quoted with the pictures and see how the code is supposed to look.

Evilsod · Apr 08, 2007, 11:42 AM // 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by centur

Imo you should get all 3 campaigns to be good. but NF should go first cause of [skill]Barbed Arrows[/skill] and [skill]Forked Shot[/skill]

What? Forked Shot is... useless. No really, its useless. Unless you really want to screw up your entire party set up by making sure you have no useful prot monk or bring Divert Hexes just for you.

The closest you'll get to a high DPS that doesn't rely on the enemy standing together just as you fire off a Barrage doesn't count. Splinter Weapon is useless is general PvE unles you know you'll be fighting large mobs that like to group. Barbed Arrows/Poison Arrow. -7 degen on everything in sight is very powerful, even if it doesnt look like it, but doing 14 damage a second on maybe 8 things has its merits (if you like to do damage that way anyway).

Prepared Shot ftw imo.