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Old Dec 05, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33   #41
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nerf: (not sure if they r the worst but they affected my monk a lot)OoB, MoR, EDrain, Etap, healing seed, CoP, Boon, pbond

buff : holy veil when they added the hex removal part
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Old Dec 05, 2006, 08:57 AM // 08:57   #42
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I think we can all agree on Energizing Finale now.
I dunno, compared to the NR and ER nerfs...
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57   #43
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buffs : Shadow of haste and some assasin's skills

nerfs : impale, sand shards, temple strike, signet of might, offering of blood, eviscerate, cripshot.
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38   #44
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Greatest Nerf: Prot Bond.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this when they saw the title..
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Old Dec 09, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32   #45
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Greatest Nerf: ER, Ether Prodigy, Ritualist spirits.
Greatest Buff: Fire Spells (thanks Anet)
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Old Dec 11, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14   #46
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Ether Prod got...nerfed?

Oh...the 3 damage part? Who cares, it's still the best Ele Elite.
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Old Dec 12, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #47
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not the biggest buff but worthy of mention: Deadly riposte. Ive seen the damage buffed twice and now its in extreme amounts, at last check it can do well over 100 dmg and cause bleeding.

Ive seen it used on assassins, VERY messy
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Old Dec 12, 2006, 05:00 AM // 05:00   #48
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Greatest nerf: NR and multiple spirits. Dont know if you remember back when 2 groups of skills - enchants and hexes (yep - you guys forgot that NR would also remove hexes) were completely useless in PvP because of NR, and you would see a sea of spirits around an altar in Tombs.

Greatest buff: the fire ele is not really a buff - just putting them where they belong. I'd say Spoil victor like the others.
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Old Dec 12, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03   #49
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I mentioned it on GWonline before but it couldn't hurt to repeat it:

Greatest Buff: Bull's and Protector's Strike. Skills that went from trash to staple.

Greatest Nerf: Protective Bond. I want to list stuff like NR and Ether Renewal, but I actually know people that quit the game over this nerf so perhaps it holds more meaning for me. This skill was killed.
When was this buffed? I thought all that happened was a change in the metagame that brought this into standard rotation?

As for others saying gale was one of the greatest nerfs: I won't disagree that the game/skill balance at the time forced a change in the metagame but wasn't it the change in exhaustion mechanics that trigged this? The skill cost could still be mitigated if it was just a simple energy raise.
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Old Dec 13, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45   #50
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Ether Prod got...nerfed?

Oh...the 3 damage part? Who cares, it's still the best Ele Elite.
No, ether prodigy isn't the best ele elite now. SF is. It's probably not even the second or third best.

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Old Dec 14, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #51
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Well some might be mad fo rme saying this but even as a ele i am thinking searing flaem si way too powerful make it a 2 second casting time i play wammo and nearly got kill, x3 searing flame dude it wipe out half my heath and my party still lost at team areana after a 35 gmae winning streak oh and

Buff=Conjure lightning now my r/e can finally spike
nerf=ether rod( it was my favourite skill dam those pvp cry bab wahhh wahhhh ele is too stron anet nerf them)
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #52
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Buff = FIRE ELES!!!

Finally with Searing Flames eles should be considered powerful mages like other RPG's and rightfully take their place back on the food chain. Ele's should be devestating powerful at one point IMO, and SF is perfect for them along with the new Earth skills. For those who say it needs to get nerfed obviously don't see how weak ele's were before. You can spread out to get out of harms way of SF otherwise deal with it because it's not much better when a sin owns you from behind.
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28   #53
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Buff: What? Anet buffs skills? /taunt
Greatest buff is definitally... Spoil Victor. A skill almost never used at one point (even in PvE) has now become a tool common in many hex pressure builds in a gvg setting.

Nerf: Verata's Sacrifice
A skill once common to all Minion Master bars across the guildwars globe has been reduced into nothing more than a forgotten, bugged skill to fill space amoung the ranks of Death Magic spells.

Hey, im a Necromancer, I choose necronamic spells!
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Old Dec 14, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12   #54
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Greatest nerf: hmm, well spirits in general as they have been hit in many ways
1. Amount - They used to be almost unlimited in number
2. Potency - Like mentioned NR used to remove all hexes AND enchants...huge nerf
3. Side Effects - changes to Soul Reaping and Soul Twisting etc
For just one skill though its gotta be Protective Bond. Instead of actually stopping 55 monks(the obvious reason to me) they ruined a good skill that demanded high prot to work. Now its shit and most newer players have never even taken a second look at it in its present state. *EtherRenewal was sweet back then too*

Biggest buff - Shouts in general. For just one skill, Spoil Victor was increased over 100%.....that's gotta count for something lol.
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Old Dec 16, 2006, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #55
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It's just sad that Anet completely destroys some skills to the point where they are complete GARBAGE.

Skullcrack anyone? Waste of a skill rather than an elite. Ether Renewal has no place for any bar. Prot Bond is impossible to mantain... Well, at least for 55'ers
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Old Dec 16, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34   #56
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It's just sad that Anet completely destroys some skills to the point where they are complete GARBAGE.

Skullcrack anyone? Waste of a skill rather than an elite. Ether Renewal has no place for any bar. Prot Bond is impossible to mantain... Well, at least for 55'ers
Crack on a sin with Flurry is wtfpwn. In PvE

And Prot Bond can be maintained. Essence bond on the tank, Balthazar's Spirit on yourself, Life Bond/Barrier on the tank, Essence Bond on yourself, PnH on yourself, Prot Bond on the tank. You lose and gain 3 energy every time the tank is hit and take a whopping 5% hp damage.
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Old Dec 16, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09   #57
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No, ether prodigy isn't the best ele elite now. SF is. It's probably not even the second or third best.
Are you kidding?
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Old Dec 17, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57   #58
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When was this buffed? I thought all that happened was a change in the metagame that brought this into standard rotation?
It was given a 1/2 activation time back in March.
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Old Dec 25, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10   #59
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Defining "Greatest" as "Most well Deserved":

Nerf:
-Energizing Finale
-Zealot's Fire
-Duplicate Spirits dying (also, spirits unaplicable to Hexes, Conditions, or Enchants)

Buffs:
-Spoil Victor
-Ritualist Channeling Spells
-Dwayna's Kiss
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Old Dec 25, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38   #60
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Nerf:OoB, MoR, EDrain,blackout after third nerf,(had to say)signet of might,criplin shot,ether renewal

Buff:Spoil Victor,Lightin surge
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