Curse

Bernie M · Mar 29, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

What is the perfecct elite skill for a MM for sorrows furnace farming? I guess it will depend on your profession, but I'd just like to know your opinions.

I've tried

Glyph of renewal
Tainted
Offering of Blood
Life Transfer (I was actually kicked by someone who I told this skill was my elite)

Any other suggestions? It doesn't seem that there is a "perfect" one out there, jsut personal preference.

.killjoy · Mar 29, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Ive went with 0 elites.. you don't need them to be good and I think OoB would help the most unless you are 100% fiends in that case renewal.. I go n/Me with 3 energy manage skills and I am 100% fiends I seem to do fine.

Yukito Kunisaki · Mar 29, 2006, 05:14 PM // 17:14

As far as that goes, summoning nothing but Horrors/Minions can cause body block issues... [gah*]

So 25% Minions [which is easy with 2 per corpse] and 75% fiends might work...

My former elite was Glyph of Power [yay for 5e. Minions/fiends] but now with Factions, I'd easily consider Flesh Golem.

That bastard is lvl 24 at 16 d. magic. Give me a backup that's higher level then normally possible any day...

Bernie M · Mar 29, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

I have considered zero elites , but it seems like such a waste not having one. But just maybe no elite is the way to go.

Bernie M · Mar 29, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

As far as that goes, summoning nothing but Horrors/Minions can cause body block issues... [gah*]

My former elite was Glyph of Power [yay for 5e. Minions/fiends] but now with Factions, I'd easily consider Flesh Golem.

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I thought glyph of power is only good for elemental skills. I'll have to check it out.

Skuld · Mar 29, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14

he means energy

MelechRic · Mar 29, 2006, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

That bastard is lvl 24 at 16 d. magic. Give me a backup that's higher level then normally possible any day...

Could have sworn mine was level [email protected] Death.

MrBugs · Mar 29, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

I do some SF farming with my monk but I have a Nec that is almost done the game and I figured I would do a few runs as a MM in SF.
What is the build that most MM use? My charactor is N/Mo but I have been thinking of switching to N/Me, should I switch?
Thanks.

Peewee · Mar 29, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

That bastard is lvl 24 at 16 d. magic. Give me a backup that's higher level then normally possible any day...

Hmm, i beleive that it goes as high as lvl 26, which is nice.

Fungus Amongus · Mar 29, 2006, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Tainted Flesh, Grenth's Balance, or Virulence, although I do agree with Bernie M and .killjoy that a MM doesn't really need to carry an elite.

kaldak · Mar 30, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

meh, there really are no good elites to take for mm. only exception might be OoB or maybe a glyph if you're going n/e, and even its nothing amazing. there are just better utility spells to take than the elite options. taking a blood/curses elite forces you to put points into blood/curses which could otherwise go elsewhere, and the death elites are decidedly unimpressive.

dont feel obligated to take an elite, just be thankful bone fiends arent elite...they're certainly more powerful than alot of elite spells...

bobert_monduvia · Mar 30, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

I play MM alot and i always bring glyph of renewal. The renewal/verata's sacrifice combo is just amazing for sustaining minions...along with glyph of lesser energy for added energy management. Free horrors FTW! IMO glyph of renewal is an MM's best choice

Unchain · Mar 30, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

Grenth's Balance or Viralunce IMO, but then again like everyone else said, not neccesary.

Dark Tykane · Mar 30, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Yeah I agree with none. You shouldn't need OoB for energy you should be fine I know I am always fine on energy. But it is kinda cool to have AotL sometimes because veretas only sacrifices around 18 health.

mint · Mar 30, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

I carry Tainted when I do 5 man orozar....glyph of renewal in most other cases

kaldak · Mar 30, 2006, 03:07 AM // 03:07

well, the thing about going N/E is that it leaves you with only BotM for a secondary heal (with more saccing) and no effective self heal. It's doable, but many people find N/R or N/Mo just as effective, and these builds dont really need any elite.

AotL helps with saccing, but any healing spell, even blood renewal, can handle that. AotL also leaves you quite vulnerable to degen.

Virulence seems pointless in PVE, especially since you're probably not dealing any conditions.

Greneth's is risky, and requires a situation (being very low in health) that you should not be in too often as a MM

Tainted can be useful, but only really worth it if you have a warrior doing something like the sf gear trick. If all attacks arent focused on one party member its probably not worth the effort.

Remember, minions are your focus. If you're taking time away from creating, maintaining, and buffing your minions it better be for something pretty darn effective and important.

manimal · Mar 30, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobert_monduvia

I play MM alot and i always bring glyph of renewal. The renewal/verata's sacrifice combo is just amazing for sustaining minions...along with glyph of lesser energy for added energy management. Free horrors FTW! IMO glyph of renewal is an MM's best choice

Agreed, Doing tombs or Oro ppl always say "finally a decent MM" or "woot someone who knows how to MM" maybe its just cuz im leet? not sure though lol.

I also got saw a N/E run Thisty River pretty damn fast(reason i made my MM) i havent tried it yet but thats my 2 cents thnx.

dsd · Mar 31, 2006, 08:38 AM // 08:38

Oob?? waht skill is that

D Fault · Mar 31, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Offering of Blood

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/2...ering-of-blood

Hella Good · Mar 31, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Animate Flesh Golemn