Curse

elementskater706 · Apr 04, 2006, 05:55 AM // 05:55

I need help with the 2 man UW farming. I cast mending, balthazars spirit, and protective spirit. Then spell breaker. They still get my enchantments off somehow. I don't know what it is. Shouldn't spell breaker block all the enchantment removers?

Tsunami Rain · Apr 04, 2006, 06:07 AM // 06:07

this question should go in "55 monk questions." For future references.

Check these two things:

1. Is your SB wearing off too soon? (use Blessed Aura if so)
2. Is your Protective Spirit going down? (always keep up)
3. Are there two nightmares? (do you kill one and not notice the other?)

elementskater706 · Apr 04, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43

Oh I didn't know there was a section for 55 monks, sorry. But I watched what happend carefully and I still had SB on and somehow they stripped my PS enchantment.

Caged Fury · Apr 04, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Any spell cast on someone enchanted with Spell Breaker will fail, and that includes enchantment removing spells. At the moment, it sounds as though your Protective Spirit has ran out and you didn't recast it.

Opeth11 · Apr 04, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19

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Originally Posted by Caged Fury

Any spell cast on someone enchanted with Spell Breaker will fail

Not if you target yourself with, say, healing breeze.
Spells can also be cast on you by team mates. Sympathetic Visage comes to mind.

Just so you know ^_^

Caged Fury · Apr 04, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Oooh, ooh...thanks for pointing out. I forgot a word from what I wrote, it should have been...

Any enemy spell cast on someone enchanted with Spell Breaker will fail.

BAH! It's too early in the morning.

Mistress Nocturnal · Apr 04, 2006, 08:34 AM // 08:34

sounds like ur protectgive spirit ended and u didnt recast or u castet it on ur teammate or some npcs be carfull who u focus

cerb · Apr 04, 2006, 11:13 AM // 11:13

Sorry to say, but go practice Trolls, Minotaurs or something before you do UW. It'll help you. If you rush things too fast, you're not gonna learn much.

The Fenixxor · Apr 04, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

I have actually noticed a "bug" lately, if i try and tank about 10+ darknesses (for example in the chamber with the terrorwebs.) my enchantments are somehow removed prematurely, even without any nightmares about and no, my PS and breeze are not running out before you ask...

cerb · Apr 04, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by The Fenixxor

I have actually noticed a "bug" lately, if i try and tank about 10+ darknesses (for example in the chamber with the terrorwebs.) my enchantments are somehow removed prematurely, even without any nightmares about and no, my PS and breeze are not running out before you ask...

Tell mr dark gregory to SV you ^_^

Reckless Abandon · Apr 04, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

I gone solo UW a few times and have made it all the way through only once.

Although on that full run I got 3 ectos

Anyways, spell breaker fails sometimes, I've cast it, and the nightmares still, somehow, strip them all. I don't understand it, but it happens.

elementskater706 · Apr 04, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

I did about 6 trys in a row by myself. I first cast mending, arcane echo, then SB, then cast PS. Then i aggro them. After about 3 seconds (none of my enchantments are under 16 seconds long) i die. I watched and only PS was gone, but I had casted it about 4 seconds beforehand. Maybe it was just a bad day, I dont know.

elementskater706 · Apr 04, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Oh yea I have been practicing trolls and griffons and such and I have them pretty wired. I just want to start getting "good" items.

elementskater706 · Apr 04, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I had just tried again and my PS just ended without warning. It didn't flash or anything. SB is still on when this happens. This is making me so mad. There is no reason this shouldn't work. I guess the odds are against me........

blakecraw · Apr 04, 2006, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by The Fenixxor

I have actually noticed a "bug" lately, if i try and tank about 10+ darknesses (for example in the chamber with the terrorwebs.) my enchantments are somehow removed prematurely, even without any nightmares about and no, my PS and breeze are not running out before you ask...

maybe having something try to steal/drain energy from u when ur at 0 works like having -regen from 5 or more enchantments, and the game thinks u can't pay the upkeep cost? (like if u have 5 or more maintained ench's and u reach 0 energy, u lose enchantments until u only have 4 left).
otherwise maybe u'r getting interrupted w/o noticing it (i guess it could be hard to hear w/ that many monsters wailing away on u) so ur enchantments aren't actually renewed when u think they are.

#1 has never existed in the past that i know of, and i'm guessing u'r too experienced for #2 to happen to u, so maybe it is just a bug

Senator Tom · Apr 04, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fenixxor

I have actually noticed a "bug" lately, if i try and tank about 10+ darknesses (for example in the chamber with the terrorwebs.) my enchantments are somehow removed prematurely, even without any nightmares about and no, my PS and breeze are not running out before you ask...

yea me too
when i know that i am about to die against like a group of trolls thats too big or something, my enchantments all disappear, then about a second later i die. its almost as if the game knows there is no way you can survive or something? might be different in your case, but thats what happens to me

Tsunami Rain · Apr 04, 2006, 11:52 PM // 23:52

This might sound a bit silly: Are you casting these spells on YOURSELF or your SS/SV Necro (by mistake)?

Question: what is your stat layout? (that might be the problem there)

elementskater706 · Apr 05, 2006, 12:33 AM // 00:33

8 healing
8 smiting
13 protection
15 divine favor

Skills in this order

1 blessed signet, 2 hex breaker, 3 spell breaker, 4 arcane echo, 5 healing breeze, 6 Protective spirit, 7 balthazars spirit, and 8 mending. (dont ask)

Heres the order i cast them. 8, 7, 1, 3, then 6. Immediatley after the casting of PS, I aggro. Now as I was attacking the sythe of chaos. They some are the ones somehow removing PS. As soon as it was gone i recast, and it was gone immediatley again, all the while having SB on.

Tsunami Rain · Apr 05, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

I would suggest that you try out either cerb's or my UW build in our guides. Bringing Blessed Aura would be a GREAT help as it helps maintain your enchantments longer. As for this scythe of chaos...thats not in the UW is it? Do you mean dieing nightmares? Dieing nightmares strip your enchants. Watch cerb's underworld video if you have questions.

At the moment this is what I find wrong with your build:

1. your healing is VERY low for the UW
2. why 8 smiting?...no use.
3. why arcane echo? (you dont need spell breaker THAT much)
4. your spells run out fast dont they? use Blessed Aura.

Again, I highly suggest you read our guides.

Caged Fury · Apr 05, 2006, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by elementskater706

...Now as I was attacking the sythe of chaos. They some are the ones somehow removing PS. As soon as it was gone i recast, and it was gone immediatley again, all the while having SB on.

Scythe of Chaos? Are you sure it's Scythe of Chaos you're going up against?

If you are then you're in ToPK (Ruins of the Tomb of the Primeval Kings) and not UW (from Temple of Ages). There is a map in ToPK called the Underworld but it isn't the Underworld. Anyway, Scythe of Chaos use Fingers of Chaos, which is a skill and not a spell (a stance I think), and that remove enchantments from monks.

The standard 55Hp Build will not work in ToPK due to the Chained Souls that Rends Enchantments and monsters that use Finger of Chaos.