Curse

Guild Wars Guru · Jun 28, 2005, 12:03 PM // 12:03

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pyth0n · Jun 28, 2005, 12:03 PM // 12:03

isn't holy damage ignoring the armor?

Jelloblimp · Jun 28, 2005, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Edit: I was slightly wrong, holy treats all targets as having 60 Armor Level which means damage will always be as listed on skill. Penetrating attacks can treat/ignore Armor Rating so you do more than listed damage.

100% Armor Penetration would treat the target as having 0 Armor Level & that would mean the actual damage will be higher than listed in skill.

this thread has good explanations & there is a damage calculator on frontpage.

Slade xTekno · Aug 12, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27

If what Jello said is true, attacks against a 60 AL target will do 23.11% more damage under Judge's Insight. Since Rangers and Warriors usually have a greater AL, it will do more yet against them.

Aernbach · Aug 19, 2005, 10:46 AM // 10:46

What if i have lets say kindle arrows prep that deal fire dmg. Will all dmg (bow + prep) be holy or just that dealed by bow ?

Tubward · Aug 23, 2005, 02:04 AM // 02:04

where do i get this skill i forget

Gerbill · Aug 23, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14

You get it in the Courthouse north of Nolani Academy

Rajamic · Aug 23, 2005, 06:42 AM // 06:42

I'm pretty sure Judge's Insight doesn't make weapons ignore armor, but does sidestep all the +X AL vs. Physical and +Y AL vs. Elemental

Aug 23, 2005, 06:59 AM // 06:59

It's been a while, but Ensign has a suspicion that AP doesnt effect any +armor mods whatsoever.

Volten · Sep 05, 2005, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Do this skill work on spells or its melee attacks only?

AncientBeerMan · Sep 07, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

This spell works with wands,staffs,hammers,axes,swords,and bows.You can't use a skill like flar and change it to holy damage.Only regular attacks work with this.

Quiddler · Sep 15, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

^ and pets

Former Ruling · Nov 11, 2005, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Good for [X]/mo's (warriors and rangers come to mind) in later parts of PvE - where undead and shades and such are common (Holy dmg DEVASTATES Undead types).

and only the duration is moded by smiting attribute - so you dont need any points in smiting to get full effect out of it (maybe 2-3 lvls used from left over attribute points to get its duration over its recharge time..but not needed).

Whitefeather · Feb 13, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

Fill me in if I'm thinking crazy here...

If Judges Insight sets armour levels to 60 due to holy damage...
And weaken armour gives you -20 armour... And penetrating attack for rangers gives you another -20 armour... AND Judges gives the initial -20...

Aren't you techinically Hitting someone with -0- armour?

batou · Feb 13, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

no, i believe that judges insight does not set armor to 60..., it just changes the damage to holy; holy damage may ignore armor in most cases, but not with this enchantment.

Whitefeather · Feb 13, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

But wouldn't said build/attack setting still do -60 To someones armour?

batou · Feb 13, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitefeather

But wouldn't said build/attack setting still do -60 To someones armour?

???????

Whitefeather · Feb 13, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34

By using Judges insight, I do -20 armour penetration, If I couple that with a necro using "Weaken armour" thats another -20 to armour, if I couple ALL that with "Penetrating attack" Isn't that just like having a -60 armour curse?

Misc Merik · Feb 13, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitefeather

By using Judges insight, I do -20 armour penetration, If I couple that with a necro using "Weaken armour" thats another -20 to armour, if I couple ALL that with "Penetrating attack" Isn't that just like having a -60 armour curse?

Not quite I always saw it as you get the armor pen bonus from all those skills but with weaken armor they have less base al so your armor pen stat just acknowledges the new base al till the hex wears off. just how I see it working. Though there is alot of people saying that str,insight,penetrating attack dont stack with the armor pen Id really like a solid answer to that.

Whitefeather · Feb 13, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59

ha ha, you and me both...
Cause if what YOU say is true...
Then the answer to my question is "yes" Cause look at it this way... If a warrior is wearing Knights or whatever and has 80 AL,
Weaken armour brings them down to 60
Then Penetrating attack ignorers 20,
And judges ignores 20 as well...

So technically, even if it's not "Stacked" to a point where it does like 300 damage, ha ha, its still a semi decent idea.