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Sir Mad · Apr 28, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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mantha of lightning is giving 2 enegry per hit instead of 5!!!

You used to get 1 energy before, not 5 - D'OH!

Side - note: you take 2/3 damage from a Sepherd with a druid armor: you can leave studed leather at home.

creed-shaman · Apr 28, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by Huntmaster

...I'm still farming..

Just made 6k in 10 minutes.

yeah where at?

Silent Elvin Ranger · Apr 28, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Wait a minute...barrage is shit. I agree with other guy...

Did u say sumthing about barrage interupting maelstrom, how so? (polite question no rudeness intended)

Oath shot=the best elite...especially because u can keep 1 stance up and 1 preperation up...almost permenantly thanks to instant reacharge on hit.

Or poison arrow due to it's spammability...or did they fix that?

Huntmaster · Apr 28, 2006, 04:04 AM // 04:04

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Originally Posted by creed-shaman

yeah where at?

If i told you, i would have to kill you.

Fay Vert · Apr 28, 2006, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by Silent Elvin Ranger

Wait a minute...barrage is shit. I agree with other guy...

Did u say sumthing about barrage interupting maelstrom, how so? (polite question no rudeness intended)

Oath shot=the best elite...especially because u can keep 1 stance up and 1 preperation up...almost permenantly thanks to instant reacharge on hit.

Or poison arrow due to it's spammability...or did they fix that?

No, the way to farm Imps is to barrage them, this is needed for the Vigorous Spirit and Live vicariously enchantment. This build also uses Distracting Shot to kill Maelstrom if an imp gets too close.

And you can't describe Barrage as shit, why would it be so popular? Like Oath Shot, it has it's uses. I don't know about you guys, but I rarely enter an area without completely changing my skill bar to suit what I am going to do, I don't have 8 skills, I have hundreds.

If anyone has a better way of farming imps that does not use Barrage, then I would be very happy to see it.

Huntmaster · Apr 28, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Kindle + Poison Arrow.

SnipiousMax · Apr 28, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by Huntmaster

Kindle + Poison Arrow.

Or Dual shot

Silent Elvin Ranger · Apr 29, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

Uhh haven't u read Kassad's IDS build. It doesnt have barrage and it rips through ice imps.By the way. I think farming Imps should be done with /mesmer cause of mantra of ice (or w/e) is better than protection spells. Not saying it shouldn't be done with monk, i just think its easier than monk protection. I find its easier to put the kindle poison skills together with hunters shot. Doing extensive degen on foe. So, preperation outside there aggro -> move in aggro and hit them with hunters shot when they r moving -> and finally poison them.
And back on topic, dontcha just love that stupid cripshot nerf. *sighs*
If you should nerf anything, it should be how warriors can run/farm basically everything. They need a good beating with a nerf bat...piniada style.

mindlesscooofooo · Apr 29, 2006, 02:03 PM // 14:03

barrage + choking gas has to do something to imp farming

Dr. Fire · Apr 29, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Barrage cancels preperations.

Fay Vert · Apr 29, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Silent Elvin Ranger

Uhh haven't u read Kassad's IDS build.

No, link?

It would be interesting to see some timings for a run between the builds. However, one thing I am certain, either I am the worlds slowest farmer, or people who post farm builds lie through their teeth about how long it takes

Silent Elvin Ranger · Apr 29, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

No, link?

It would be interesting to see some timings for a run between the builds. However, one thing I am certain, either I am the worlds slowest farmer, or people who post farm builds lie through their teeth about how long it takes

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=98235

Sry i was too lazy to post it b4.

O and BTW, these ranger nerfs suck, but these nerfs are minor compared to what the MM got.

Evilsod · Apr 30, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Nobody is complaining about it, just observing that you are going to miss an interrupt everynow and again, no matter how good you are. But this whole thread is about nerfing ranger farms (in case you didn't notice) and in the context of imp farming, would you care to post up your build that doesn't use barrage, but can farm them successfully?

Imp farming? Erm if we're talking about the same sorta Imps that i can farm quite easily at the end of Mineral Springs using Poison Arrow and not actually getting close enough to Maelstrom then yeah i can. And since when did anyone mention Barrage and interrupting Maelstrom had anything to do with farming? And on another note, how the hell does Maelstrom even affect you, besides giving you a free 2 energy until you see fit to move!

I really don't see what has been nerfed about Ranger farms in the slightest. My FoW forest trips haven't changed in the slightest, i just have to wait that little bit longer for Dual Shot to recharge.

Just read the rest of the page and realised this was said already by 2 different people

Silent Elvin Ranger · Apr 30, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

teh hell with it...i dont even use duel shot that often. O no!! duel shot!!its...its...its....less spammable!! AHHH!!!...Boo frickin who. Stop b*tching and take a look at the MMs nerf. I think we should call ourself lucky. As a ranger i find (as ive noticed we are always getting the short end of the stick) that we finally got a nerf that wasn't the worst. Nerfs will happen no matter how much u dont want them. Nerfs are a part of the game. THEY ARE THE THINGS THAT ENCOURAGE NEWER, MORE FUN BUILDS! Sry for flaming but, u are all to busy talking about the nerfs to even try to get around the nerf. Maybe, if u dont like the recharge, replace duel shot. Maybe u will break from the all popular kindle + duel shot and think of a combo that does even more damage (especially with the new factions skills to add in). Besides, not all builds revolve around duel shot.

Anyways, any more nerfs i can flame?

Elvin

Maria The Princess · Apr 30, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Hmm heres an idea. TAKE BARRAGE OFF YOU F*CKING SKILLBAR FOR ONCE! Ever since Barrage/Pet took off almost every ranger i see seems to think Barrage needs to be permanently attached to them, that skill is shit almost everywhere. Punshing Shot > Barrage

Agreed Snipeous, compared to other classes Rangers got it lightly.

Just 1 thing that i don't get, did warriors actually lose out on ANYTHING this update? The only shitty thing they have is the 10 energy cost on Savage Slash, not like it matters, thats just to screw up 55 farming better imo.

........lol

/signed

for solo builds Poison arrow does wounders!

barrage is a good "team" skill vs a bulk of mobs, no wounder people love it, but lets not take it to an "obsession" level

Maria The Princess · Apr 30, 2006, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

You used to get 1 energy before, not 5 - D'OH!

Side - note: you take 2/3 damage from a Sepherd with a druid armor: you can leave studed leather at home.

lol my bad i was sure its 5 for some reason....,

and btw, druids AND studded both have +30 vs elem attaks, but studded has +15 vs lightning bonus as well

Fay Vert · Apr 30, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

barrage is a good "team" skill vs a bulk of mobs, no wounder people love it, but lets not take it to an "obsession" level

Agreed, but when you have 5 or 6 imps lined up together, or about 15 ice golems bunched in a cluster, it's kind of a nice scenario for barrage. Slip favorable winds in there and I challenge anyone to a race. (can you poison golems? I guess you kindle those)

Garumn · Apr 30, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

and can u tell me how did u get 6k in 10 mins?:P

Richo · May 01, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

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Originally Posted by Ninja OniX

yea, i hate it when they nerfed a nonover power character. Now I cant even HA since R-spike is nerfed. Or at least not as well. Carrying quicken zephy may help

i replaced dual shot with maurader shot (+37 dmg 5 sec non attack skill disabled) i like it pretty much specialy against high armor rate foes *looks sentinel armor*