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calamitykell · Apr 23, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyrmslayer

You realize that Mantra of Flame is a mesmer skills right?
How would the monk GAIN energy?
No bonnetis, no energy gain, no healing breeze...

Do you even know what Mantra of Flame does? Go look it up.

Reve2uk · Apr 23, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

pro.bond - lose 3 nrg per hit
Baths.spirt - 1 nrg per hit
Esece.bond - 1nrg per hit
mantra of flame - 1 nrg when hit with fire dmg

Greater Conflagration - makes all physacal dmg fire dmg

.... So u can run P.bond with no nrg being lost........ now that brings back memorys

Rhuobhe · Apr 23, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

I'm glad people are starting to understand what I was talking about

BTW Rave2uk Greater Conflagration is a Ranger elite skill

cerb · Apr 23, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Wow lol, just drop the whole p.bond-ownage idea with Greater Conflagration, thats just stupid.

Hey, lets have the 55 run that:

Healing Breeze
Blessed Signet
Spellbreaker (E)
Bonetti's Defense
Greater Conflagration (E)
Mantra of Flame
Protective Bond
Mending
Balts Spirit
Essence Bond

Rhuobhe · Apr 23, 2006, 03:58 AM // 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerb

Wow lol, just drop the whole p.bond-ownage idea with Greater Conflagration, thats just stupid.

Hey, lets have the 55 run that:

Healing Breeze
Blessed Signet
Spellbreaker (E)
Bonetti's Defense
Greater Conflagration (E)
Mantra of Flame
Protective Bond
Mending
Balts Spirit
Essence Bond

Jebus cerb WTH are you [indirectly, although blatently] personally flaming me for? Extremely immature. Asinine comment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

You could always add a 3rd person with Greater Conflagration and have the monk bring Mantra of Flame. Then you could maintain P Bond.

Or Greater Conflagration + Winter and Mantra of Frost.

But then you would have a 3rd person in your group.

KEY: 3rd person needed

Reading is fundamental.

Reve2uk · Apr 23, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

ah was tired lol... got confussed... well u could still do it with a ranger dmg daler via mark of pain + posin ...... or could have a condtion necro, not sure slower proplery but hey would work :P

well u can do it just have:

Mo/ME
Healing Breeze
Blessed Signet
Spellbreaker (E)
Mantra of Flame
Protective Bond
Mending
Balts Spirit
Essence Bond

R/N:
mark of pain
Greater Conflagration (E)
dual shot
tigers
apply posion
Rotting Flesh
br
res

see it would work here u would just need a good way to get dmg output

novawhiz · Apr 23, 2006, 05:26 PM // 17:26

ya thats a nice build.

~SOmetimes for UW i bring power spike, casue i usually end up with noob 55's

Bloodied Blade · Apr 24, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

it's not always that the 55 doesn't know *how* to kill the nm's, sometimes just that they don't have the proper wand to do so (I still need a spare offhand and a max wand, it's irritating to switch to a prot staff because theres around a 50/50 chance that I'll die...). If the monk asks you to kill the nm's, don't complain, just do it and enjoy the ecto.

Nadine · Apr 24, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Take Mo/R as tank, bunp up ws and use GC and Storm Chaser. When u have enough points on ws just use serpent's then storm. U will get 3-4+1+1 energy from every hit,so u need like 8 points on prot

Age · Apr 24, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reve2uk

ah was tired lol... got confussed... well u could still do it with a ranger dmg daler via mark of pain + posin ...... or could have a condtion necro, not sure slower proplery but hey would work :P

well u can do it just have:

Mo/ME
Healing Breeze
Blessed Signet
Spellbreaker (E)
Mantra of Flame
Protective Bond
Mending
Balts Spirit
Essence Bond

R/N:
mark of pain
Greater Conflagration (E)
dual shot
tigers
apply posion
Rotting Flesh
br
res

see it would work here u would just need a good way to get dmg output

Oh good I can do this with my Ranger being an R/N and maybe useing P bond along with PS.

cerb · Apr 24, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Yes very smart now deal with Fear Me, interrupts, skull crack and smites. Mark of Pain does damage to ADJACENT FOES only and triggers AoE panic, so dual shot = they spread. Plus, your main target isn't likely to die from degen anytime soon (Esp. if we're talking about an aatxe).

Thinking outside the box is a good thing, but this really isn't going anywhere.

Synthetic · Apr 24, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

I am not sure if this is possible. However, if I remember correctly the old solo trick was to have a protection prayers +1 item to cast Prot Bond. This lowered the energy loss per hit. If you can get a wand + off hand with prot prayer +1 so you can cast bond at 18 protection prayers then you only lose 2 energy per hit. (If such items actually exist. I am not sure.) 2 energy is regained by essence and balth so then bonetti's is just extra. The energy wont be as good as it is with the current 55 norm; however, it is possible.

Evilsod · Apr 24, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

You can only get 1 +1 to a skill item as far as i know (at a time). So not only would you need to stack every skill point you could into Protection, you'd also have to spend a few hours waiting for that 4% chance to kick in and get a good prot bond (or 20%). So even if you could use Prot Bond effectively i'd pick Spirit over it anyday.

Just face it, the only truly effective way to kill Aatxe ASAP is an SS necro while they surround 1 target.

cerb · Apr 24, 2006, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Prot Bond caps at -3 now (at 13 prot), even if you get +1 prot to 17, it's still -3 energy

B Ephekt · Apr 25, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade

it's not always that the 55 doesn't know *how* to kill the nm's, sometimes just that they don't have the proper wand to do so (I still need a spare offhand and a max wand, it's irritating to switch to a prot staff because theres around a 50/50 chance that I'll die...). If the monk asks you to kill the nm's, don't complain, just do it and enjoy the ecto.

If the monk doesn't have the proper equipment he is wasting my time. This is why I don't do UW with PUG monks...

Having the necro kill the nightmares will work sometimes, but often you have to get very close to aggro to do it. And if the necro dies, it's back to ToA. Why not just be prepared in the first place?

If you're going to try and be a 55 for UW, get the proper equipment first...