Curse

Lord Rich · Mar 06, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

hmmm ok...my build is this:

Fast Casting: 14
Domination: 12
Healing Prayers:4
NOTICE: i did not do the 15 attribute quests yet...(dont know how)

anyways, my skill bar is:

Empathy: (my basic offensive move)

Epidemic: (I use this right after I use Empathy)(to spread conditions)

Shatter Delusions: (I use this right before Empathy wears off)
(gives some additional damage)

Backfire:I usually use this on harder people who cast spells alot)
(interrupts spell and damages target)

Chaos Storm:(I usually use this on a group of 3 or more opponents)

Orison of Healing:(i use this when I believe i am in dire need of it)
only 33 heal points tho

Shatter Hex:(removes those annoying hexes that are put on me)
(and hurts adjacent opponents too

)

Restore Life:(to rez those dead members)

ok, so what you think?

Kai Nui · Mar 06, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Change Orison of Healing to Ether Feast, get rid of epidemic, it does nothing, get rid of chaos storm, it will just cause the foes to run away, take points out of fast casting and healing and put them into inspiration and get Energy Surge and Energy Burn in there and you have yourself a generically better build.

Dragannia · Mar 06, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Rich

hmmm ok...my build is this:

Fast Casting: 14
Domination: 12
Healing Prayers:4
NOTICE: i did not do the 15 attribute quests yet...(dont know how)

anyways, my skill bar is:

Empathy: (my basic offensive move)

Epidemic: (I use this right after I use Empathy)(to spread conditions)

Shatter Delusions: (I use this right before Empathy wears off)
(gives some additional damage)

Backfire:I usually use this on harder people who cast spells alot)
(interrupts spell and damages target)

Chaos Storm:(I usually use this on a group of 3 or more opponents)

Orison of Healing:(i use this when I believe i am in dire need of it)
only 33 heal points tho

Shatter Hex:(removes those annoying hexes that are put on me)
(and hurts adjacent opponents too

)

Restore Life:(to rez those dead members)

ok, so what you think?

It's a horrible build.

Empathy is fine, but generally you need more Domination, so take some points from Fast Casting.

Epidemic is useless in your build. You have nothing which will cause conditions. Drop it, unless you take something like Signet of Midnight or Ineptitude.

Backfire is fine as a pressure move, but just informing you that it does NOT interrupt spells. Take Wastrel's Worry to pressure them into using skills. Only works on casters however, and only in PvP.

Chaos Storm is pretty bad. Drop it in favour of something else, since people run away and now even monsters run from it.

Orison of Healing, especially for you at 33 HP, is bad. It's a bad skill in the first place, and on you it's worse. If you really want self healing (which I think Mesmers don't really need, they should rely on the Monk), take the previously suggested Ether Feast or Illusion of Weakness.

Restore Life is simply bad. For PvP, the ONLY ressurection skill you should be using is Res Signet. In PvE, Rebirth is much better than Restore Life.

For the 15 attribute points (well 30 actually), talk to Vanyi in Droknar's Forge, then go to the desert to where she tells you to go, and talk to all the ghosts. Do one of their quests and head back to Vanyi, who will direct you towards the other 15 points. For the first 15 points, go to the Arid Sea and talk to the Forgotten dude there.

SnipiousMax · Mar 06, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

I'd suggest Mantra of Recovery if you plan on using backfire and empathy, it'll help you toss those little gems out more often.

Francis Demeules · Mar 06, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Rich

hmmm ok...my build is this:

Fast Casting: 14
Domination: 12
Healing Prayers:4
NOTICE: i did not do the 15 attribute quests yet...(dont know how)

anyways, my skill bar is:

Empathy: (my basic offensive move)

Epidemic: (I use this right after I use Empathy)(to spread conditions)

Shatter Delusions: (I use this right before Empathy wears off)
(gives some additional damage)

Backfire:I usually use this on harder people who cast spells alot)
(interrupts spell and damages target)

Chaos Storm:(I usually use this on a group of 3 or more opponents)

Orison of Healing:(i use this when I believe i am in dire need of it)
only 33 heal points tho

Shatter Hex:(removes those annoying hexes that are put on me)
(and hurts adjacent opponents too

)

Restore Life:(to rez those dead members)

ok, so what you think?

Same thing for me, epidemic, Chaos storm and orison of healing... remove them. Instead of Healing prayers, use insperation to use Ether feast (heal more than Orison of healing). Drop some points too in inspiration (reduce your fast casting, you dont really need it high like this). Shatter delusion..... its so-so, I dont use it myself thought. You can find something better.

And your energy management? I dont see anyone! Energy tap/Drain, Leech signet, Power Drain, Inspired spells,spirit of failure, etc. At least have one energy management skills on you.

LightningHell · Mar 06, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Rich

hmmm ok...my build is this:

Fast Casting: 14
Domination: 12
Healing Prayers:4
NOTICE: i did not do the 15 attribute quests yet...(dont know how)

anyways, my skill bar is:

Empathy: (my basic offensive move)

Epidemic: (I use this right after I use Empathy)(to spread conditions)

Shatter Delusions: (I use this right before Empathy wears off)
(gives some additional damage)

Backfire:I usually use this on harder people who cast spells alot)
(interrupts spell and damages target)

Chaos Storm:(I usually use this on a group of 3 or more opponents)

Orison of Healing:(i use this when I believe i am in dire need of it)
only 33 heal points tho

Shatter Hex:(removes those annoying hexes that are put on me)
(and hurts adjacent opponents too

)

Restore Life:(to rez those dead members)

ok, so what you think?

Empathy is not a condition, and therefore Epidemic is useless.

Use Rebirth instead of Restore Life.

Chaos Storm makes mobs scatter.

I would take Convert Hexes instead of Shatter Hex. Your choice.

Everything else what everybody else said.

You don't have an elite.

I'll suggest something for a change:

Me/Mo
Fast Casting: 7 +1
Domination: 12 +3 +1
Inspiration: 8+1
Protection Prayers: 8

Energy Surge, if you can get it
Energy Burn
Empathy
Backfire
Shatter Hex (Just for the damage)
Convert Hexes
Inspired Enchantment (Or some other energy management)
Rebirth

Lord Rich · Mar 06, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

well this is about as good as i can get at the given moment guys:

Fast Casting: 10

Domination: 12

Inspiration: 9
----------------------
Empathy

Shatter Delusions

Backfire

Energy Tap

Ether Feast

Shatter Hex

Channeling (most of my skillz are spells anyways)

Rebirth

Is that good enough?

Dragannia · Mar 06, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Firstly, is this for PvE or PvP? If it's for PvP, get rid of Rebirth for Res Signet, otherwise leave it (only for missions though). With Tap you really don't need Channeling, so get rid of it. The build you have isn't really anyhing in particular, so replace it with Energy Burn or something. All in all, you need to know what you want to do (anti-warrior, anti-caster, etc.), otherwise a random build like this won't really last.

LightningHell · Mar 06, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50

It's definitely for PvE.

LouAl · Mar 06, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

I know you are getting a wide variety of opinions so here is mine.

Personnally not a fan of Channeling, it seems that I have to stand much too close to baddies for it to work...Ether Tap is pretty worthless to me also. At 9 points in Insp you will get 12 energy from it, but you spent 5 to use it so you net 7 energy. It is a 3 second cast!!! and has a 25 second recharge. Too little energy for the effort. You are better off, IMO, with power drain (preffered), drain enchantment, shame, guilt, etc. These are all more conditional, but at least they do something while they get you some energy. Power Drain, for example, at 9 insp will get you 19 energy (net 14), has a .25 sec cast and the same recharge as Ether tap, so get double the energy back from it if you can plan enough ahead to stop a spell (and as a bonus you stopped a spell).

As for healing, when I started I saw that my mesmer healing spell was Ether Feast, it was total crap, and then Anet buffed it. IMO Ether feast is still total crap. It does decent healing if Insp is pumped waaay up, but has a 2 second cast and takes 8 seconds to recharge...If I need that much health I am standing in the wrong place (probably because I was trying to get the energy bonus from channeling). I think that your best bet for healing is to stay away from baddies, if they do get you let the monk deal with the damage. You could also use Illusion of Weakness but that would mean points in Illusion to be effective.

SnipiousMax · Mar 06, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouAl

You could also use Illusion of Weakness but that would mean points in Illusion to be effective.

I'd agree that IoW is better than Ether feast. If you were using Shame/Guilt for energy management, then you could honestly drop Inspiration all together, and have plenty of points to drop into Illusion.

But you should understand, much of this is personal prefrence, you're best finding a balance between what people say, you're own experience, and what you're most comfortable with.