Curse

Nevin · Mar 04, 2006, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Attributes:

(More Damage)
Strength: 4 (0+1)
Swordsmanship:15 (0+3) = 465 Health/26 Energy | Riposte/Deadly Riposte 80/75;25
Axe Mastery: 0
Hammer Mastery: 0
Tactics: 15 (1+2)

Or..

(More HP)
Strength: 4 (0+1)
Swordsmanship:14 (0+2) = 540 Health/26 Energy | Riposte/Deadly Riposte 76/71;24
Axe Mastery: 0
Hammer Mastery: 0
Tactics: 15 (1+2)

Skills:
Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Hundred Blades, Final Thrust, Bonetti's Defense, Sprint, Healing Signet, Res Signet.

Note: Instead of Hundred Blades you may bring Gladiator's Defense, although this will limit you to only warrior vs warrior battles.

Equipment:
Duelist's Helm Or Ascalon Helm Or Tactician's Helm
Gladiator's Hauberk
Knight's Boots or Gauntlets (Which ever you prefer, will not be needed if you have Ascalon)
Gladiator's Leggings
Gladiator's Boots or Gauntlets (Which ever you prefer, will not be needed if you have Ascalon)
+30 5/20 Shield
10/10 +30 Sword
Superior Rune of Vigor
Superior Absorption
Superior Swordsmanship or Major Swordsmanship
Major Tactics or Minor Tactics
Minor Strength

How to Use:
Its soul purpose is taking down warriors in PvP. Engage a warrior and contiously use both Ripostes, Bonetti's Defense when you need to get yourself up and let the warrior burn himself out with skills that won't effect you. Hundred Blades is your basic means of damage, Final Thrust when HP is bellow 50%, and Sprint if target runs away or you need to run and heal with Healing Signet.

Note: If you bring Gladiator's Defense, constantly interchange between Bonetti's and Gladiator's to keep yourself alive.
Note: Riposte's do not stack

Please leave comments and feedback.

SziP · Mar 04, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

awesome!

General Typhus · Mar 04, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Useless. It's not like intelligent warriors attack each other in PvP anyway. They go for your blinding/healing/damaging casters.

I actually encountered your build a few days ago in YA. The warrior kept telling me to attack him in local chat. After disarming his support, I let the ele have the pleasure.

Sorry, useless turtle build.

mortalis doleo · Mar 04, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00

if you want to make a build "solely to kill pvp warriors", just use an SS necromancer, mantra of persistance mesmer, degen build, trapper, earth elementalist... anything but a warrior, especially one with repostes and glads defence. you are useless to your group like that, since you arent causing any damage.

Nevin · Mar 05, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Not pointless at all.. In RA I almost always have a warrior come after me. Especially with 15k gladiator's it makes them swarm me thinking (Hah I'll pwn this RP junkie)

Not to mention all the War's wanting to 1 vs 1, It also owns IW mesmers; For warriors being intelligent thats just a contradicting statement.. I've had a Warrior flash his Tiger Rank at me then engage me; With the Riposte build I killed him under 10 seconds. This was on the Ring of Fire pvp map, so he respawned came at me again (Died), respawned came at me again (Died)... In all I killed him 4 times that round, if you judge people by your own standards you won't understand the nature of others. (Basically most people are morons)

Its only seemingly pointless until you try it. (After all how can you neglect a skill that deals the same damage as Final Thrust with the target under 50% of their HP for 4 less adreline strikes..)

Edit: Wait wait wait.. Something that completey could counter an IWAY warrior is useless to a team?

evox the evil · Mar 05, 2006, 08:08 AM // 08:08

wow just cause they came after you doesnt mean all of em will. my warrior aint the first target for PvP warriors and i got 15k glads too. most warriors in PvP only like to think theyre above all the other warriors so they charge. most of the people you faced were eiether arrogant to the extreme or mentally retarded. i prefer to eliminate the mesmers,necro's and ele's because they cause the greatest threat to my smaller teammates.

Poison Ivy · Mar 05, 2006, 08:16 AM // 08:16

Appreciating and giving others a pat on the back for accomplishments costs nothing.

Amazing build Nevin, I'll go try it out myself.

OMFGimCUTE · Mar 05, 2006, 09:13 AM // 09:13

hmm il go try this build out

bleh · Mar 05, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

u could alos try using battle rage as it would replace both sprint and 100 blades it may keep your damage down some more though

consider using desperation blow because with all those points in tactics you will be dealing 90+ on caster with it and if im not mistaken it ignores armour so its handy vs warrs

mortalis doleo · Mar 05, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

Not pointless at all.. In RA I almost always have a warrior come after me. Especially with 15k gladiator's it makes them swarm me thinking (Hah I'll pwn this RP junkie)

Not to mention all the War's wanting to 1 vs 1, It also owns IW mesmers; For warriors being intelligent thats just a contradicting statement.. I've had a Warrior flash his Tiger Rank at me then engage me; With the Riposte build I killed him under 10 seconds. This was on the Ring of Fire pvp map, so he respawned came at me again (Died), respawned came at me again (Died)... In all I killed him 4 times that round, if you judge people by your own standards you won't understand the nature of others. (Basically most people are morons)

Its only seemingly pointless until you try it. (After all how can you neglect a skill that deals the same damage as Final Thrust with the target under 50% of their HP for 4 less adreline strikes..)

Edit: Wait wait wait.. Something that completey could counter an IWAY warrior is useless to a team?

still, tell me how this is better than an SS necromancer, who can kill several warriors at once AND be effective against teams with no warriors in them.

basically, your build only works against warriors, and only against warriors who attack you. that's very situational.

Raxxman · Mar 05, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Riposte and Deadly Riposte are tactics based, so I'm thinking something got a little confused in the builds, (both have tactics 15 but you state the second one does less dammage)

Thrill of victory is good as well

Nevin · Mar 05, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

The Second one does less damage with Final Thrust.

Also, I've found that Hundred Blades > Minions (From a MM in PvP) and the pure vanilla damage from such high swordsmanship makes it fairly easy to still make yourself an asset to the team. Although this doesn't fit any team build, or stand a chance against an organized team (GvG or TA) It'll rip through RA or HoH, even if the warrior changes to you just for a second during a stand off thats enough time to bring him down to 25% of his HP.

The Real Roy Keane · Mar 06, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

The Second one does less damage with Final Thrust.

Also, I've found that Hundred Blades > Minions (From a MM in PvP) and the pure vanilla damage from such high swordsmanship makes it fairly easy to still make yourself an asset to the team. Although this doesn't fit any team build, or stand a chance against an organized team (GvG or TA) It'll rip through RA or HoH, even if the warrior changes to you just for a second during a stand off thats enough time to bring him down to 25% of his HP.

While I think your build may have some degree of success in RA due to the extraordinary amount of moronic warriors there, it doesn't have a place in HA. Since when are HoH teams unorganized anyway..?
*Note: if this is a typo then I'm sorry.

WolflordUlrik · Mar 06, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21

omfg i woke up and got bored, so i whent to play GW
in the arena i notice my ripost isnt doing the normal 53/106 and 63/126 it was doing 79/158 and 84/168 WTF?!
i use my griffon farming build in the arena and i have to say that this update is bangin
i thought it was a glitch adn ppl told me i hacked but then a guy told me it was "THE update"
i was like, holy shit, my god, team soloing build just got better
i can kill frenzied warriors before the monk can even click on their name

ripost FTW

Nevin · Mar 06, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane

While I think your build may have some degree of success in RA due to the extraordinary amount of moronic warriors there, it doesn't have a place in HA. Since when are HoH teams unorganized anyway..?
*Note: if this is a typo then I'm sorry.

HoH teams aren't unorganized, but I've seen many accounts where the warriors will become restless of chasing the monk and try their hand at attacking you (The warrior in this case) Unless its a guildie HoH team then chances are it'll have someone ignorant on it.

Kariston The Swift · Mar 06, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39

I ran this on a R/W and just spammed the hell out of them. It was pretty good so I figure it works the same way for you.

zxerox · Mar 07, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Nice build Nevin, tried it myself but had difficulty getting enemy warriors to attack me. so i re build the character as a Monk/Warrior with 12 tactics.. all warriors love attacking monks and the results were quite good, and mesmers putting migraine and backfire etc on you does nothing as you dont use any spells. also this makes it possible for enchantments like mending or vigerous spirit and so on. i noticed though as soon as you get a good necro or ele you die so fast because they target you thinking your a healer. any further suggestions anyone?

Mr.H.Mishima · Mar 07, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

Attributes:

(More Damage)
Strength: 4 (0+1)
Swordsmanship:15 (0+3) = 465 Health/26 Energy | Riposte/Deadly Riposte 80/75;25
Axe Mastery: 0
Hammer Mastery: 0
Tactics: 15 (1+2)

Or..

(More HP)
Strength: 4 (0+1)
Swordsmanship:14 (0+2) = 540 Health/26 Energy | Riposte/Deadly Riposte 76/71;24
Axe Mastery: 0
Hammer Mastery: 0
Tactics: 15 (1+2)

Skills:
Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Hundred Blades, Final Thrust, Bonetti's Defense, Sprint, Healing Signet, Res Signet.

Note: Instead of Hundred Blades you may bring Gladiator's Defense, although this will limit you to only warrior vs warrior battles.

Equipment:
Duelist's Helm Or Ascalon Helm Or Tactician's Helm
Gladiator's Hauberk
Knight's Boots or Gauntlets (Which ever you prefer, will not be needed if you have Ascalon)
Gladiator's Leggings
Gladiator's Boots or Gauntlets (Which ever you prefer, will not be needed if you have Ascalon)
+30 5/20 Shield
10/10 +30 Sword
Superior Rune of Vigor
Superior Absorption
Superior Swordsmanship or Major Swordsmanship
Major Tactics or Minor Tactics
Minor Strength

How to Use:
Its soul purpose is taking down warriors in PvP. Engage a warrior and contiously use both Ripostes, When a riposte blocks you gain adreline so Bonetti's Defense is basically constant with only 2 second intervals (It also provides you with energy to spam Hundred Blades). Hundred Blades is your basic means of damage, Final Thrust when HP is bellow 50%, and Sprint if target runs away or you need to run and heal with Healing Signet.

Note: If you bring Gladiator's Defense, constantly interchange between Bonetti's and Gladiator's to keep yourself alive.
Note: Riposte's do not stack

Please leave comments and feedback.

Bonetti's ends if you use a skill...any skill...so I guess what I'm asking is what's your sequence here? I'm also pretty sure Riposte's stack....at least they do from what I've seen.

frojack · Mar 07, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Sigh. This was my great weapon in RA. Not a big secret, but in the fact that no one else really used it. When the update came along, I knew this would explode with usage

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You'd be surprised how many warriors go for you when you attack there 'life-line' in RA. The best thing is, you don't have to stop attacking the squishy to deal with the warrior. Also, if you only spam Riposte and watch for the 'glint' you can evade certain killer skills like Eviscerate with a readily charged Deadly Riposte.
Another great thing about these skills is that, they are like 'shouts' in that they can be activated while doing other stuff. During Heal Signet for example. Plus it has a 100% success rate against 'normal' attacks (not the type that cannot be blocked or evaded), even Wild Blow I believe (Though I could be wrong) making them such great skills

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It may not be the most effective way to play a warrior, but it's sure as hell more fun. I'm getting tired of the traditional warrior builds.

Great post Nevin

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Another point; the only real weakness of the Riposte's is that it is melee only (it would be nice if it blocked arrows also), and secondly, It is a 1 attack wonder. Multiple melle attackers will still own you. Which is where the balance is I suppose.

mortalis doleo · Mar 07, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by zxerox

Nice build Nevin, tried it myself but had difficulty getting enemy warriors to attack me. so i re build the character as a Monk/Warrior with 12 tactics.. all warriors love attacking monks and the results were quite good, and mesmers putting migraine and backfire etc on you does nothing as you dont use any spells. also this makes it possible for enchantments like mending or vigerous spirit and so on. i noticed though as soon as you get a good necro or ele you die so fast because they target you thinking your a healer. any further suggestions anyone?

come on... you ruined it...
maybe if you said "succor or life bond", i would have agreed...