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Eaimirth Etaivella · Mar 15, 2006, 09:19 AM // 09:19

I have thought about it, and is there a use for ether lord?
It sucks as energy renewal.
It sucks at denidal.
It is a hex.
It has a super long recharge.
It is conditional.

The only use for it that I can think of (besides a cover hex, rofl) is that to counter out ether prodigy (why the hell you would want to lose the energy idk, seems like a good trade off to keep it imo.)
It denies too little, gains too little...even if it was a signet it would suck. Please help me if I'm wrong, but this seems like a mesmer's mending.

LightningHell · Mar 15, 2006, 10:07 AM // 10:07

Mending is better. At least I use it in my 55 Ele.

I wouldn't know. Try putting it on a Warrior. Never tried.

tafy69 · Mar 15, 2006, 10:14 AM // 10:14

its good for e-denial, 20 second recharge isnt too long

Lots of teams use it in conjunction with panic

LightningHell · Mar 15, 2006, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Good for E-Denial? Are you serious?

At the most, you drain them for 9 and you gain 9 energy. At the cost of your whole energy pool. AND assuming they don't strip it.

rii · Mar 15, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

A level 14 energy burn takes 10 energy every 20 seconds... ether lord takes 9 energy every 20 seconds.... say what?

The loose all energy is the main part of this which is turd - i dont see why that cant be removed... would give malaise/wither something to play with if you ever thought it was worth it.

Banebow · Mar 15, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

While I don't use the skill that often, you should not just be looking at the amount drained. Energy burn will drain 10 energy compared to 9 from ether lord, yes, but ether lord does not drain energy, rather, it prevents the energy from coming back. While a monk has a window of oppurtunity to cast OoH before you use an energy burn, he will never get that chance while hexed with ether lord.

Used in conjunction with panic and a signet-heavy e-denial build, you could definitely have some fun.

Francis Demeules · Mar 15, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Migraine(E) + Malaise + Ether lord
Wither(E) if you have a necro in your team

sorry I mean Panic and not Migraine

Yukito Kunisaki · Mar 15, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Stopping energy from coming back is always good if you're not on the recieving end...

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DieInBasra · Mar 15, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

You could always focus swap to prevent you from loseing all of your energy. Just save it for the end of your surge-burn cycle, focus swap, cast it, swap back.

Dragannia · Mar 15, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35

I love Ether Lord. Cast it when you're on 5 energy, give someone degen, then use E-Drain or E-Tap to get a chunk back.

LouAl · Mar 15, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by rii

A level 14 energy burn takes 10 energy every 20 seconds... ether lord takes 9 energy every 20 seconds.... say what?

The loose all energy is the main part of this which is turd - i dont see why that cant be removed... would give malaise/wither something to play with if you ever thought it was worth it.

Just wanted to point out that at lvl 14 burn does -10e and at LVL 14 ether lord also does -10e

I don't really like ether lord, but I wanted to make sure the comparison was fair with both at the same attribute lvl.

The_Janitor · Mar 15, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

I use this spell with my energy denial build, works like a charm.

Sap their energy and slap this baby on and stop them from regenerating. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Eaimirth Etaivella · Mar 15, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

Worthless against a monk, as it is a hex...
-Also since when have mesmers focused on removing energy from other classes (you could try a mesmer, but that is just stupid as they have the best hex removal in the game.)

DieInBasra · Mar 16, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

Hexes are useless? News to me.

I don't really understand your second point. Looks to me like you're saying mesmer aren't for edenial...

LightningHell · Mar 16, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16

Well, yes, you can focus swap...

The Real Roy Keane · Mar 16, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33

I've never tried it, but couldn't you switch to a -energy offhand, cast Ether Lord, then switch back to your energy staff/focus, leaving your primary energy pool unscathed?

LightningHell · Mar 16, 2006, 09:34 AM // 09:34

Yes, you can.

EDIT: By the way, I think Eaimirth is a PvE-er who doesn't care much about the PvP world.

Avarre · Mar 16, 2006, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Quote:

Worthless against a monk, as it is a hex...

Very poor statement, yet I agree in this particular case.

You lose all remaining energy to cast it, if etherlord is removed quickly (often the case) you've basically lost 5 + the regenned while casting amount for no gain. If the team you're fighting has more than one person with hex removal, lord is too weak to be used.

On the only healer/hex remover it's fairly levelling, however.

minor · Mar 16, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

ether lord is an ok hex/ energy drain, but there are better options in pvp world.It does stop 10 energy just like surge or burn, but it doesn't do the 80 damage that they do.As already stated you lose all energy so you have to be low on energy to use reasonably, which makes it not spamable as soon as it comes up and stops it from being a "great" skill.

LouAl · Mar 16, 2006, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

Migraine(E) + Malaise + Ether lord
Wither(E) if you have a necro in your team

sorry I mean Panic and not Migraine

I think that is a cool idea (panic, not migraine

) and you could top it off, after a quick focus swap, with a parasitic bond, or mind wrack or something else...just to keep E lord on that much longer.