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antoninus · Mar 22, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

im just curious... does the arrow move speed stack?

Valerius · Mar 22, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

it's hard to tell... but i'm pretty sure it does

SnipiousMax · Mar 22, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Well, it'd be a nightmare to try and test...

But I think it's safe to assume that they do, since there isn't a limit on arrow speed (that I'm aware of) like there is on movement/attack speed. The damage stacks, so it would follow that the other buffs stack as well. I don't know how the math works out with rounding, etc, but I don't think it makes a huge difference regardless.

JR · Mar 22, 2006, 06:51 PM // 18:51

It used to be that the damage didn't stack, and the arrow speed stacked conditionally.

- If you put FW up, and then used RTW, the speed would not stack. Neither would the damage.

- If used RTW, and then put FW up, the speed would stack. Neither would the damage.

I know they then fixed it so the damage did stack. Whether at the same time they fixed the arrow speed inconsistensy I am not sure.

Interestingly enough, RTW also used to be bugged and make your arrows go at four times the normal speed. Whether that is still the case, I don't know.

moriz · Mar 22, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

the best way to test this is to bring a flatbow, a recurve bow, FW, and RtW into the isle of the nameless and test on the master of healing. first fire the flatbow and recurve bow without FW and RtW to note their speed and arc. then put down FW and fire the flatbow to see if the arrow speed and arc matches the recurve bow's without FW. and then use RtW on the flatbow to see if there's a noticeable difference in arrow speed.

Pillz_veritas · Mar 22, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

the above idea might work. although it is hard to observe this type of things. Hmm observation is by the human eye and the human eye makes mistakes ^_^

moriz · Mar 22, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25

the human eye is weak at making observations, but is actually pretty good at comparing. if RtW does 4x your arrow speed, then RtW+flatbow should equal FW+recurve. you can try that to see if they match.

SnipiousMax · Mar 23, 2006, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

the human eye is weak at making observations, but is actually pretty good at comparing. if RtW does 4x your arrow speed, then RtW+flatbow should equal FW+recurve. you can try that to see if they match.

You'd have to compare them side by side, or time them. It'd be really hard to tell from just looking at one, then the other.

Sample Attack · Mar 23, 2006, 06:30 AM // 06:30

We Run R-spike , RTW + FW which Horn Bow , Imo the dmg stack ~~

kilika829 · Mar 23, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41

Quote:

- If you put FW up, and then used RTW, the speed would not stack. Neither would the damage.

Why would all R-Spikes bring both then?
I'm pretty sure damage stacks, not sure about the speed...It doesn't seem to miss with both the boost though.

D Fault · Mar 23, 2006, 10:06 AM // 10:06

For the damage using RTW, Fav and Winnowing it used to stack or not stack depending on the order they were used in, this has been fixed now so all the damage stacks.

To test the speed boosts might need to take a friend in who can fraps it to make it easier to see.

moriz · Mar 24, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

or just use a flatbow, FW and RtW. flatbow with FW should be the same as a recurve without FW. if RtW is 4x arrow speed, then flatbow + RtW should be faster than a recurve's base arrow speed. you can easily see it at those speeds.

or maybe i just play too much ranger interrupts. who knows?

jibikao · Mar 24, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Single Speed Boost isn't good enough? I don't think you can dodge with faster arrows right? I will be worried more about damage than speed stack.

SnipiousMax · Mar 25, 2006, 06:30 AM // 06:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilika829

Why would all R-Spikes bring both then?
I'm pretty sure damage stacks, not sure about the speed...It doesn't seem to miss with both the boost though.

It does stack, but awhile ago you had to use them in a certain order to get them to stack. That is what he was refering to.