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Old Feb 15, 2006, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #181
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yeah ive been messing around with this build a buch lately and i have only used Ether Feast only once really....but it was when my monk dropped and an attaxe was beating on me

the nightmares, tell your monk to just hit prot spirit right before going up stairs...and to only worry about those fella at beginning....if you hear one run close and try and target the M-Fer to drop a power spike or wand to death....(trust me i know its tough....)

and as for the smites, i was having the same problem....then i archane echo'ed the SV and watch til it gets about 1/2 recharged and hit the 2nd one...

SV --> smites = no energy = no smite hex

i think im gonna try a switch out Ether Feast W/ PB....

GREAT THREAD guys...thanks
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35   #182
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Thanks a lot for the tips. I'll take those into consideration. And that was my bad -- I really carry desicrate not shatter.

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While the Nolani Collector wand yields +5 energy all the time, it lacks the max damage values needed to take out nightmares fast, thereby limiting your necro's ability to assist the monk when multiple nightmares pop up.



Replace Shatter Enchantment with Desicrate enchantments. Since you'll be running L18 curse with AtB active, you will be hitting for at least 64-120+ dmg in an area of effect.



If I had to guess, it sounds like your guildy has too few points in Divine Favor... more divine favor boosts Spellbreaker's duration. Some of the monks I've grouped with have 30-second spellbreakers, which is more than enough time to kill 3 dying nightmares.



There are several ways to do it, but general tactic is to arcane echo, cast SV, wait 12 seconds, then drop SS and cover hex, recast SV with arcane echo, then protect SS with cover hexes or finish the smites with a big Desicrate Enchantements.
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23   #183
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why do the aatxes kill me when i do every thing right
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56   #184
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why do the aatxes kill me when i do every thing right
r u a 55 monk?
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13   #185
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why SV at all?
why not rather use Ne/Mo and combine Vengeance and Rebirth to bring back the monk in case of disaster. much more beginner friendly.
use suffering to have smites waste their smite hex then use ss and cover it, done.

since creatures always seem to cheat on nrg it is doubtful that draining them works.
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #186
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why SV at all?
why not rather use Ne/Mo and combine Vengeance and Rebirth to bring back the monk in case of disaster. much more beginner friendly.
use suffering to have smites waste their smite hex then use ss and cover it, done.

since creatures always seem to cheat on nrg it is doubtful that draining them works.
Actually SV works like a charm....
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21   #187
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why SV at all?
why not rather use Ne/Mo and combine Vengeance and Rebirth to bring back the monk in case of disaster. much more beginner friendly.
use suffering to have smites waste their smite hex then use ss and cover it, done.

since creatures always seem to cheat on nrg it is doubtful that draining them works.
Simple: Nec/Monks nowhere near as fast and efficient as Nec/Mes for speed-killing smites, aatxe, and coldfires via Spiteful Spirit. If you don't want a 45+ minute smite battle, you have to deplete the smite crawler's available energy to prevent them from chain-casting smite hex to neuter SS. Contrary to some "urban legends," creatures do observe the rules of energy management.
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14   #188
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If you think SV doesnt work try this...

cast SV, cast on yer monk....

hit your energy tap...

how much energy do you get?

nothing.


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Old Feb 17, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23   #189
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why SV at all?
why not rather use Ne/Mo and combine Vengeance and Rebirth to bring back the monk in case of disaster. much more beginner friendly.
use suffering to have smites waste their smite hex then use ss and cover it, done.

since creatures always seem to cheat on nrg it is doubtful that draining them works.
Just a question, how long does it take for you to clear the whole smites run when you use your necro monk?
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Old Feb 17, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03   #190
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Just a question, how long does it take for you to clear the whole smites run when you use your necro monk?
I used to run an n/mo, before I learned the timing for sv. If you have a good n/mo build you can kill a set of smites in about the same time as it takes a n/me who echo's SV. It's much faster if you run n/me though if you know how to do it without echoing SV, which most don't.

Essense bond on a n/mo = seckseh.
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Old Feb 21, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38   #191
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SIMPLE...
UW 2 man runs.....
Most Efficient killer= N/Me
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Old Mar 02, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15   #192
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This post shouldn't be down here, BUMP!
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Old Mar 07, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #193
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What armor do you use? is it one of the 15k? or something else?
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Old Mar 07, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03   #194
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What armor do you use? is it one of the 15k? or something else?
Since ideally you'll never be taking damage, use scar patterns, with a +1 curses head scar. Droks armor is the best armor you can get, the 15k and Fissure armors are the exact same stats, they just have different looks.
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yea but come on, look at the AVI, don't i look sexy!!!
its scars fissure, oh yea
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Since ideally you'll never be taking damage, use scar patterns, with a +1 curses head scar. Droks armor is the best armor you can get, the 15k and Fissure armors are the exact same stats, they just have different looks.
What tpye of runes should i put on the scars?
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What tpye of runes should i put on the scars?
Check the more complete guide here. Most people use minor blood and death, superior curses and soul reaping, and the best Vigor you can afford.
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Check the more complete guide here. Most people use minor blood and death, superior curses and soul reaping, and the best Vigor you can afford.
OK thanks man!
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Old Mar 08, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01   #199
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Check the more complete guide here. Most people use minor blood and death, superior curses and soul reaping, and the best Vigor you can afford.
a more complete guide, lol yea he typed more info...

but he uses alot less efficient build
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Old Mar 08, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08   #200
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a more complete guide, lol yea he typed more info...

but he uses alot less efficient build
Please stick to the facts Preacher. I have provided solid evidence based in theory and countless in game tests here, stating that our method is vastly superior to yours. If you can prove otherwise, please do so. When confronted with the clear facts in the other thread here, you simply said that you don't use the build anymore, not offering any evidence to the contrary. Sorry Preacher, but your build is certainly not efficient. It's been proven.
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