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silent333x2 · May 28, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Strength or Tactics sheild?

When it comes down to overal benefit from stats and skills, which is better?

For pve?

For pvp?

As it appears to me:

Strength = mostly offensive and some defensive
Tactics = mostly defensive and some offensive

Also, this is not just concerning warriors. Any class with a warrior secondary may use a tactics sheild.

Also, same stat sheilds such as the exhalted egeis. Which is better and why?

Please only post logical answers with appropriate reasons.

MCS · May 28, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Whichever you have the req for... Strength is more popular because most people have higher strength than tactics.

ShazBo · May 28, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

A Sword or Axe Warrior so use a Strength Shield. A Stance Warrior would use a tactics shield.

Viruzzz · May 28, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

any warrior would want higher tactics than strength i think, the 1% of armor penetration is easily payed back by the usefulness of tactics skills

every boost to your heal sig helps your monk, charge as an aoe speed boost, can't beat that...

and for the different shield. if the stats are the same, they work the same. the ONLY difference is looks

Maria The Princess · May 28, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

if you are fighter warior = strenght for armor penetration bonus

if you are a classic tank = tactics to make those stances more efficient

VitisVinifera · May 28, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

wow suprised I'm the first saying this: both. Get both a tactics and a str shield. And get one that has mods for while enchanted, while in stance, and always. Have a shield for every build. Be versatile.

Arkantos · May 28, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36

I'd have to say both. Some builds are str > tac, some are tac > str.

Maria The Princess · May 28, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

wow suprised I'm the first saying this: both. Get both a tactics and a str shield. And get one that has mods for while enchanted, while in stance, and always. Have a shield for every build. Be versatile.

alot of $$$$ that some cant afford. maby his budget is only 1 shield to start off?

silent333x2 · May 28, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

alot of $$$$ that some cant afford. maby his budget is only 1 shield to start off?

Um lol money isnt a problem. Just posting for the opinions of the peeps on the forums.

Arkantos · May 28, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

alot of $$$$ that some cant afford. maby his budget is only 1 shield to start off?

True. I'd have to say start off with a str shield if you cant afford both.

Maria The Princess · May 28, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

i like tactics, cuz i always have them hight for my heal siignet, and got a -2 in a stance mode. but for pvp i would probably go for strengh to deal more dmg

dgb · May 28, 2006, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Get tactics. Strength as an attribute line is pox. The AP adds so little damage to be worthless and most of the good strength skills effects either are strong at low strength (sprint, rush) or do not rely on the attribute (bull's strike).

Tactics on the other hand allows for a lot of versatility with heal sig etc. and a number of shouts.

JR · May 28, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by dgb

Get tactics. Strength as an attribute line is pox. The AP adds so little damage to be worthless and most of the good strength skills effects either are strong at low strength (sprint, rush) or do not rely on the attribute (bull's strike).

Tactics on the other hand allows for a lot of versatility with heal sig etc. and a number of shouts.

Quoted for accuracy.

silent333x2 · May 28, 2006, 03:59 AM // 03:59

Well how bout for smite mo/w that seem to be comming back using zealots fire and a series of instants for high dps. Would a tactics sheild suite them better?

fb2000 · May 28, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by silent333x2

Well how bout for smite mo/w that seem to be comming back using zealots fire and a series of instants for high dps. Would a tactics sheild suite them better?

I might be wrong, but I believe a mo/w doesnt have a Strength attribute.. i cant check right now as my gfs zzzZzzZ'ing in my room

Spook_Cell · May 28, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

A monk wouldn't have strength, it's the main attribute for warriors and only warrior primes have it.

Don Zardeone · May 28, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

the extra damage from str is nihil.

It only adds the extra damage to the skills you use. So if you use a cyclone axe attack, you might do 1 extra damage at 3 or more str.

Get a crimson carapace: R9 tact, hp+45 stanced, -2 damage stanced
Get a malinons shield equivalent (I believe 5 k from a canthan crafter or less from a collector): R9 tact, hp+45 chanted, -2 damage chanted.
Then there's the other ones with bulwark stats: +30 hp always, -2 damage stanced (I believe these exist in both tactics and str)
And the -5 20% chance hp+30 (I think) tactics/str shields

You'll probably want a few special ones for certain purposes but you'll figure it out when you need them (some people like +1 to attribute 20% chance shields)

Blkout · May 28, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR-

Quoted for accuracy.

Co-signed.