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Old May 21, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34   #1
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Thumbs up Best canthan sword & axe elites? (your opinion)

Anyone want to give me their opinion on the best sword and axe elites?

If you dont mind listing what it does and where its obtained that would be great for myself and everyone else, thank you.

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Old May 21, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38   #2
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the best sword elite is dragonslash. i love this skill^^

axe i dont know, im a sword player...
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Old May 21, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34   #3
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Sword = Dragon Slash (Infinite Adrenaline ftw)
Axe = Triple Chop (Executioner Cylclone Axe)
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Old May 21, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38   #4
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as far as my warrior goes i love auspicous parry,

just spam that and riposte as much as humanly possible

However, if im not using a sword shove is quite fun in pvp. great kd skill,but it does have the draw back of disabling skill. if u use it right,tho, it works wonders
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Old May 21, 2006, 04:06 AM // 04:06   #5
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I prefer whirling axe to triple chop.

sword = quivering blade.
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Old May 21, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12   #6
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axe - triple chop. i really like the combo of executioners+cyclone in this skill.
swords - i like quivering blade because its low adrenal cost makes it easily spammable for some high damage. and to counter the dazed that might happen i usually have plague touch.
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Old May 22, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43   #7
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axe=triple chop.
sword=quvering blade/dragon slash
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Old May 22, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54   #8
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Axe=Triple Chop, Whirling Axe is good DPS and all but...there's no spike at all...
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Old May 22, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43   #9
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Sword, Quivering blade.

Axe, Evicerate.

Not much of a competition imo.

Dragon Slash does not work well with Final Thrust
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Old May 22, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17   #10
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Shove, and Shove.

"Disables non-attack skills". Gee, both of them...
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Old May 23, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03   #11
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Um... None of them are too impressive.

Dragon Slash - It's 10 Adrenaline and if it misses, that's 10 adrenaline down the drain. That in itself isn't so bad, but you also have to concider that you're missing out on the best sword skill; Final Thrust. Furthermore, you thereis simply too much blackout going around in PvP that can completely trash this skill.

Quivering Blade - Probably one of the better Warrior elites in faction, though that's not saying much. I'd say it's the best sword elite for pressure. If you do get blocked, it most likely won't effect you much as a warrior unless you're using Virulence or Shock or some other common warrior/secondary spells. Hell, you can even shed the Dazed off with Plague Touch if you want. However, if you're running Sword, you're most likely doing it for "Charge!". Hammers and Axes all provide better pressure in most situations, but again, Final Thrust is a winner. I could see this being used. I'll save the Weapon vs Weapon debate for another time.

Whirling Axe - Same problems as Cleave, not to mention all the blocking going on in PvP. Differance between this and Quivering Blade? It actually matters if you're blocked. If you dont mind the skill disabaling and are willing to change your build into one with few Adrenaline skills, I think it might be able to do some good pressure, though I'm not sure why the hell you'd run this over Eviscerate.

Triple Chop - Suffers from the same problems as other warrior AoE skills in PvP; AoE too small. This will probably be used even less than Hundred Blades, especially since King Eviscerate and even Whirling Axe and Cleave ourperform it.
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Old May 23, 2006, 05:45 AM // 05:45   #12
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They are all good.

After spending hours playing with each of them i can confirm that all of them are good.

Dragon slash: Chain adrenal skills. Rocks for PVE. Poor for PVP however

Quivering blade: the PVP version of it. Works quite well as a spike attack or for builds which need a sword elite. Sword line always needed a spammable high dmg ability. Here it is

Triple chop: Amazing skill whenever you are fighting low health enemies in numbers who tend to pack togather. Another PVE skills. If you are fighting afflicted for example, this is the skill of choice. Also good in farming situations combined with cyclone axe

Whirlwind axe: Amazing skill whenever it comes to constant high DPS. This is the skill of choice for PVE whenever dealing with stronger opponents (warders). In PVP is good for keeping pressure on monks or other players. At 2A, this skill is spammable every 2nd attack. its quite good.


Conclusion: All the axe and sword elites are good. However practice is required to master them. For example, It took me 2 days and 19 hours of gameplay (while replaying missions for my protector of cantha title) to realise how amazing triple chop is.
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Old May 23, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33   #13
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For PVP Auspicious parry

PVE: Triple chop + cyclone axe FTMFW
w/ sword, Probly dragon, but I dunno, haven't capped quivering blade yet.
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Old May 24, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19   #14
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best sword elite=dragonslash great for pvp and theres are ways to make sure it doesnt miss try this out ull love it::
dragon slash///call of justice///weapon with furious mod///warriors cunning///tigers fury////conjure fire/air///ice . ull never miss ull gain ur adr so quick it will make ur head swim. and ull be able to spam dragonslash IT WORKS VERY WELL!!!
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Old May 24, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30   #15
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best sword elite=dragonslash great for pvp and theres are ways to make sure it doesnt miss try this out ull love it::
dragon slash///call of justice///weapon with furious mod///warriors cunning///tigers fury////conjure fire/air///ice . ull never miss ull gain ur adr so quick it will make ur head swim. and ull be able to spam dragonslash IT WORKS VERY WELL!!!
You can't conjure and use tigers fury on a warrior. You can only have 1 secondary. Make up your mind.

Dragon slash blows in PVP and whoever claims otherwise either sucks or has never tried so himself.

PS: Please try to use proper grammar in the near future. I know this is not english class but damn, that thing looks like it was typed by a 12 year old
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Old May 24, 2006, 04:36 AM // 04:36   #16
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I'd have to disagree I think Dragonslash could be quite good as a adrenal spiking skill because it keeps you with plenty of adrenaline which can be crucial when you have to call fast spikes.
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Old May 24, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00   #17
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They should have introduced an inverted Final Thrust style sword elite where you don't lose all your adrenaline and damage is double when hp is above 50%

That'd be worth an elite...
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Old May 24, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36   #18
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You can't conjure and use tigers fury on a warrior. You can only have 1 secondary. Make up your mind.

Dragon slash blows in PVP and whoever claims otherwise either sucks or has never tried so himself.

PS: Please try to use proper grammar in the near future. I know this is not english class but damn, that thing looks like it was typed by a 12 year old
Umm excuse me? Are you implying that all builds with dragon slash "blow" for pvp? That generalization is sickening. While I don't claim to be GOOD at pvp. I claim to be compitent and not "suck."

Some builds actually have it work well. I run dragon slash, galrath, and silverwing. Just like Kariston said. Adren spikes = godly if you can get em on time. What if you have blind? Purge condition fixes it for me. =P.

I beat down elementalists/warriors/sins very easily in 12v12/Random Arenas. While I haven't tested in GVG i'm sure its viable. Maybe you should try it some time. Or maybe it's just not your style to play without a condition attack skill.

You should try this some time, and I think that's what

With furious mod and sword at 16 ->

Tiger Stance/Frenzy -> For Great Justice... 4 hits to get galrath up alongside silverwing slash.

If you actually get how adren works you'd understand how this goes. Eventually once you get dragon slash up attack with it, then galrath -> silerwing, and dragon again. Refreshing tiger/frenzy.

While, yes missing will destroy your combo, with for great justice and a speed enchancement, it should be more than enough to get it back.

However, this is my style of play. My problem is how people simply say that it sucks without reason at all. Have YOU tried it at all for more than a run or two?

These few skills + my own smiting skills in pvp have proven to be quite effective in downing most people ESPEICALLY the NPCs in 12v12.

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Old May 24, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42   #19
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I think Auspicious parry is a great skill but I just can't use it since I spam flurry. Quivering Blade is what I'm using at the moment. Flurry charges it in no time.
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Old May 24, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32   #20
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Flurry is bad in PvP.
PvE I like Quivering Blade. Haven't had time to mess with Dragon Slash yet, but it may very well replace Hundred Blades in my PvE build.
For PvP sword, I run Quivering Blade, Skull Crack (for sh*ts and giggles), or Charge.

Axe - nothing beats King Eviscerate but for PvE purposes, I have to say I'm impressed with Triple Chop. Cleave is better than Whirling Axe IMO since it doesn't totally screw up your adrenal efficiency and no penalty on block.

Strength - Umm...

Tactics - Auspicious Parry

Hammer - Enraged Smash is pretty nifty in PvE when you can swing it, but you'd still run a KD elite in PvP.
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