Feb 04, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19
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#21
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Look into the Eye.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Detroit, Mi
Guild: Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmj102
If you use the collectors idol and vilnars claw, does the percentage change to 40%?
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Yes, it "stacks", although I'm not sure if it stacks together or seperately... Like... if one activates and makes the cast 2x as fast, can the other ALSO activate, making the spell only take 1/4 the normal time? or is it simply like having one "40% chance" mod. The wording of it makes it seem like you could hypothetically have a 75% increased speed, 20% of 20% of the time (which would be 4%.) Can anyone confirm this?
edit: i confirmed it you can get 2x fast recharge/casting speed for the same cast.
Last edited by sno; Feb 07, 2006 at 01:18 AM // 01:18..
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Feb 04, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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#22
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: near SF, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmj102
If you use the collectors idol and vilnars claw, does the percentage change to 40%?
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Assuming you're allowed to hold 2 off-hands, or have 2 left hands, each percentage activation is checked separately. So no, you wouldn't have 40%, but you should have 20% + (0.8 * 0.2 = 16%) = 36%... at least that's how I understood it. Please correct me if you know otherwise.
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Feb 05, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32
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#23
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)
Profession: N/
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I prefer Villnar's setup....claw and glove
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Feb 05, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16
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#24
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Look into the Eye.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Detroit, Mi
Guild: Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_shar
Assuming you're allowed to hold 2 off-hands, or have 2 left hands, each percentage activation is checked separately. So no, you wouldn't have 40%, but you should have 20% + (0.8 * 0.2 = 16%) = 36%... at least that's how I understood it. Please correct me if you know otherwise.
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You wouldn't have to have 2 offhands... he said idol and claw, thats collectors offhand+villnars mainhand. Yes it would be 36% chance to cast quicker than normal, but would there be a 4% chance of getting both to activate, having 1/4 cast time?
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I prefer Villnar's setup....claw and glove
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a: villnars claw is garbage. the recharge on the collectors curse truncheon is way better, and +3 while hexed is... useless.
b: if you're going to state an opinion at least show some reasoning.
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Feb 05, 2006, 03:33 AM // 03:33
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#25
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
a: villnars claw is garbage. the recharge on the collectors curse truncheon is way better, and +3 while hexed is... useless.
b: if you're going to state an opinion at least show some reasoning.
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I would rather have 20% recharge, 20% fast casting, 20% Curses +1 then the collecters wand.... now if you wanna talk about the BEST setup, i would suggest the following...
VILLNARS GLOVE ~ OFFHAND
MAX GOLD CURSES WAND..
+5 ENERGY(WHILE HEALTH^50%)
10% GLOBAL (RECHARGE OR FAST CASTING)
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Feb 05, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11
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#26
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: near SF, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Undead Preacher
I would rather have 20% recharge, 20% fast casting, 20% Curses +1 then the collecters wand.... now if you wanna talk about the BEST setup, i would suggest the following...
VILLNARS GLOVE ~ OFFHAND
MAX GOLD CURSES WAND..
+5 ENERGY(WHILE HEALTH^50%)
10% GLOBAL (RECHARGE OR FAST CASTING)
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Unfortunately, curse-req gold wands don't exist in the present patch. The best wand I've been able to pair with Vilnar's Glove is this:
Last edited by lord_shar; Feb 05, 2006 at 06:15 AM // 06:15..
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Feb 05, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01
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#27
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Look into the Eye.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Detroit, Mi
Guild: Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_shar
The best wand I've been able to pair with Vilnar's Glove is this:
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The one I use currently is:
Deadly Cesta (req8 death)
+4 while enchanted
20% fast recharge using curses
Not exactly what I want yet (still searching for a 20/20 curse one) but in my opinion it's MUCH better than Villnars.
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Feb 05, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06
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#28
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
The one I use currently is:
Deadly Cesta (req8 death)
+4 while enchanted
20% fast recharge using curses
Not exactly what I want yet (still searching for a 20/20 curse one) but in my opinion it's MUCH better than Villnars.
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yea Villnars claw isn't the best.... but this thread was comparing the collecters wand vs the claw, and in that aspect, i do believe its better!
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Feb 05, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09
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#29
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Look into the Eye.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Detroit, Mi
Guild: Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Undead Preacher
yea Villnars claw isn't the best.... but this thread was comparing the collecters wand vs the claw, and in that aspect, i do believe its better!
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Um... actually this thread was comparing the glove to the collectors idol, it just got derailed awhile back. Nice try tho.
/clap
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Feb 05, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14
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#30
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
Um... actually this thread was comparing the glove to the collectors idol, it just got derailed awhile back. Nice try tho.
/clap
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lol, my bad
so when i posted originally and said I liked Villnars setup, that meant I like the glove... so no need to start trash-talking the claw... give ur opinion, support it, and don't trash others peoples opinions, its just annoying when u do that... and it seems like thats all u do on this forum~!
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Feb 06, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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#31
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Inside
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_shar
Unfortunately, curse-req gold wands don't exist in the present patch. The best wand I've been able to pair with Vilnar's Glove is this:
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And why is that? Has anyone sent this in? Kinda goes along with why are there only two wand types for Necros (Truncheons and Deadly Cestas) while there are 50 bazillion types of axes/bows/swords.
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