Curse

Juguard · Feb 21, 2006, 06:08 AM // 06:08

I have searched, no luck. I did read a while back, that you can get it from Presearing. Can anyone tell me where I can get it form? Thanks.

Oh, I need it just in case I die. :P

cagan · Feb 21, 2006, 07:09 AM // 07:09

The quest is 'Poor tenant'
It is given by Namar in ascalon city pre-sear, and is the one where you have to lure some bees away from miller upton to get the reward from him.

sno · Feb 21, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Don't use the presearing one, it doesn't have max energy, so theres no point in really using it. You can find max ones in post pretty easily, I have one with req12 healing if you can't find any others.

The ones I use are -20hp with 10% global fast-recharge, req8 and req10 (2 identical ones, one for each monk :P )

cagan · Feb 21, 2006, 07:28 AM // 07:28

This presear one gives +12 energy if you have less then 33% health for a total of +15 energy.

Edit: Which isn't to say its the best -20 offhand possible for him, but it is a easy one to grab with a new char, and quite decent.

Juguard · Feb 21, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

for the ones in post sear, are they with quests, or drops?

Also, for the poor tenent, it doenst seem to give me a quest yet, are there some req before getting the quest?

Francis Demeules · Feb 21, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

I've found a -20 offhand from a Frost Dryder in northen shiverpeaks. So, for me, -20hp focus are mostly given by necro monsters.

cagan · Feb 22, 2006, 07:29 AM // 07:29

It seems to be a fairly random mod. The -20 health tends to be a drawback of a unconditional bonus to armor on the focus from what i've seen.

sno · Feb 23, 2006, 07:04 AM // 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagan

It seems to be a fairly random mod. The -20 health tends to be a drawback of a unconditional bonus to armor on the focus from what i've seen.

That's 100% correct. It's similar to a weapon will drop with + damage always and -5 energy, except in this case all you really want is the 'drawback'. There are also focus items with +armor^50 and other conditions, just like damage mods.

baz777 · Feb 23, 2006, 12:42 PM // 12:42

I had a griff out side Augury drop a purple one last week

Despondency · Feb 23, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

I got a -20 chalice from farming id swords last week.

i Mitsuki i · Feb 24, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

I'm confused i thought you needed the -50hp for a 55hp monk?

konohamaru heaven · Feb 24, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Super monks use two diferent off hand items mainly in case they do die so they can still continue.

The -20 health off hand item can be obtained in presearing when you do futher adventures which is the first questyou get when u get your first spells.

i Mitsuki i · Feb 24, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Thank you!

xTimmyx · Feb 24, 2006, 03:07 AM // 03:07

or you can do the quest "cities of ascalon" and get the cesta from symon the scribe for the reward there...it has -50 and lots of +'s for energy

or you can by mine for 5k

scars of insanity · Feb 24, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

i actualy got a purple drop that had -20 hp +5 armor back before AoE nerf. didnt think much of it and sold it.

Spiteful Soul · Feb 24, 2006, 08:38 AM // 08:38

you don't need a -20 offhand for a 55er.
if you soul happen to dye. Just remove the
-50 offhand and you health will be at 33.
which is perfect. After you kill 3-6 creatures.
Your health will be back to almost 55 again
once you reequip the -50 offhand.

dgb · Feb 24, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiteful Soul

you don't need a -20 offhand for a 55er.
if you soul happen to dye. Just remove the
-50 offhand and you health will be at 33.
which is perfect. After you kill 3-6 creatures.
Your health will be back to almost 55 again
once you reequip the -50 offhand.

33 health isn't perfect. 19 health is perfect.

Reverend Jekyll · Feb 24, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgb

33 health isn't perfect. 19 health is perfect.

Agreed. And with a -20 health offhand you're at 13 once you die. It's true, this only lasts through one decent sized group of bad-guys, but if you're paired with a N/Mo with Vengeance and Res you can keep that ultra low health for quite some time.

Note: The following contains knowledge common to most existing 55 monks, feel free to skip

Protective Spirit limits damage dealt to you to a maximum of 10% of your total health. Damage values are whole numbers, rounded down for simplicity. Therefore if your health is anywhere between 10 and 19 you will only take 1dmg per hit from any source. This damage can easily be mitigated using Mending alone (unless you are suffering from health degen effects such as bleeding/burning/etc.) and makes the solo monk's job much easier.

/common knowledge

If you are soloing anywhere outside of UW you can equip the -20 offhand, walk into a group of mobs and die. You will be at 13 health when you res at the nearest shrine.

Spiteful Soul · Feb 25, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Jekyll

Agreed. And with a -20 health offhand you're at 13 once you die. It's true, this only lasts through one decent sized group of bad-guys, but if you're paired with a N/Mo with Vengeance and Res you can keep that ultra low health for quite some time.

Note: The following contains knowledge common to most existing 55 monks, feel free to skip

Protective Spirit limits damage dealt to you to a maximum of 10% of your total health. Damage values are whole numbers, rounded down for simplicity. Therefore if your health is anywhere between 10 and 19 you will only take 1dmg per hit from any source. This damage can easily be mitigated using Mending alone (unless you are suffering from health degen effects such as bleeding/burning/etc.) and makes the solo monk's job much easier.

/common knowledge

If you are soloing anywhere outside of UW you can equip the -20 offhand, walk into a group of mobs and die. You will be at 13 health when you res at the nearest shrine.

No Shit.
But what I'm saying you don't need the -20 offhand. When using a 55er.
Well I don't cause after I kill about 3-6 creatures. My health is back again.
Plus I only use a 55 build when I'm soloing.