Curse

Nailo Neo · Jan 15, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siva arwen

i dont think Anet would change or buff AoD, but the reason of AoD is so weak because when u compare Hex-atk-skill and Ench-atk-skill together u will see.

[skill]Black Lotus Strike[/skill] and [skill]Golden Lotus Strike[/skill]
Black Lotus Strike beats Golden Lotus Strike in any cases. Black Lotus Strike gains more dmg, more energy, shorter recharge and it is a Off-hand.

[skill]Black Spider Strike[/skill] and [skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill]
Black Spider Strike beats Golden Phoenix Strike in any cases also. Black Spider Strike has more dmg, lower energy, and it has POISON.

Anet should buff [skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill] like [skill]Black Spider Strike[/skill] but with add Cripple instead of poison and require enchant instead of hex and [skill]Golden Lotus Strike[/skill] move to critical strike attribute and become like [skill]Black Lotus Strike[/skill] but require enchant instead of hex.

Siva arwen · Jan 15, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Even though i love to run AoD than Shadow-P but i never use Golden Phoenix Strike with my AoD build. How can a skill like Golden Phoenix Strike+AoD able to have a combo to kill some1 with a huge of Energy require and low dmg and no condition? faster recharge? lol

Kiba of hidden leaf · Jan 19, 2007, 04:58 AM // 04:58

AoD is my favorite skill, its what assassins need to do. Go in, land combo, teleport back out

Utaku · Jan 19, 2007, 09:21 AM // 09:21

You can do that with
[skill]shadow walk[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill]
No attribute, low mana cost, no after cast time, and saves your elite slot for something better, such as
[skill]shattering assault[/skill][skill]Moebius strike[/skill][skill]Assassin's promise[/skill]

Siva arwen · Jan 19, 2007, 09:31 AM // 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utaku

You can do that with
[skill]shadow walk[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill]
No attribute, low mana cost, no after cast time, and saves your elite slot for something better, such as
[skill]shattering assault[/skill][skill]Moebius strike[/skill][skill]Assassin's promise[/skill]

ShadowWalk+Dash is a good combo but if u a fan of AoD or SP u will not pick ShadowWalk+Dash instead of AoD or SP. ShadowWalk+Dash is good to kill a stand still character but for kitting or fleeing hero i don't think so.

Shuuda · Jan 19, 2007, 09:33 AM // 09:33

Hidden caltrops fixes that, and adds extra damage.

Siva arwen · Jan 19, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Hidden caltrops fixes that, and adds extra damage.

i cant say u wrong here. but have ever think SP+ShadowOfHaste+Dash is better and easier than ShadowWalk+Dash+HiddenCaltrops?

jesh · Jan 19, 2007, 09:52 AM // 09:52

If you're using HotO, they won't be running long after a Shadow Prison. You can land that even without a running skill.
The fact still stands - AoD sucks. Boohoo.

fallot · Jan 19, 2007, 11:02 AM // 11:02

AoD had two things going for it:

1) Telespike: Shadow Prison has replaced this because of its favorable energy cost and the fact that you can use the excellent BLS and BSS with it. The attack-skill of choice to use with AoD (Golden Phoenix Strike) has been nerfed to cost 10e, a change that now makes no sense since a better alternative was offered with the release of Nightfall and the reduction in the recharge of Black Lotus Strike.

Shadow Walk is also a non-elite alternative for AoD that synergises well with Deadly Paradox and Dash, two ubiquitous skills.

2) Anchor: AoD could be used to place an "anchor" at a certain location, this function is performed much better with the non-elite Shadow of Haste.

Does AoD need a buff ? Perhaps. Its still a reasonable skill. There is a rebalance coming up shortly, maybe some other skills will be changed that will make AoD a favorable elite. Maybe AoD will itself be changed. I wouldn't count on it though.

SotiCoto · Jan 19, 2007, 11:26 AM // 11:26

Bah. Shadow-stepping skills are for PvPers... I have no need of such things.

I'm a Londoner. I have superior people-dodging skills... and use Dash in game to put that to good use.... Good old Go-For-The-Monk tactics (or in the case of afflicted, Go-For-The-Ritualist). Trying to shadow-step just disorients me more than it does the enemy (AI based) and ultimately only takes up another skill on my skill bar.

Besides.... my ID+ build is designed to take down Warriors (because IW ignores armour) and Rangers (because IW ignores blindness): The front line.

Kiba of hidden leaf · Jan 27, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

this is about Aod and not your random pve talk nonsense of an assassin tank

Tingi · Jan 27, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

Bah. Shadow-stepping skills are for PvPers... I have no need of such things.

I'm a Londoner. I have superior people-dodging skills... and use Dash in game to put that to good use.... Good old Go-For-The-Monk tactics (or in the case of afflicted, Go-For-The-Ritualist). Trying to shadow-step just disorients me more than it does the enemy (AI based) and ultimately only takes up another skill on my skill bar.

Besides.... my ID+ build is designed to take down Warriors (because IW ignores armour) and Rangers (because IW ignores blindness): The front line.

I thought I'd told you a long time ago that an IW assassin build is one of the worst builds in guild wars history.

Black Ops Ranger · Jan 27, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26

I use a simple build that tears apart RA but nothing else
Its nice and easy to run and easy to create if you need a little extra faction to unlock somthing

Skills:
AoD
Golden Pheonix
Twisting Fangs
Golden Lotus
Fox Fangs
Nine Tails(interchangable with any dual attack you want)
Vigorous Spirit
Res Sig

I use Zealous Daggers of Fortitude

Golden Lotus, Zealous daggers and Crit strikes keep your energy up
Vigorous keeps up your health while attacking

Don't flame this or call it stupid till you try it your self (in RA)

PS: It is only an RA build, dont think it has much use outside that

Hyunsai · Jan 27, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Even for RA, it lacks a little Snare...

Tingi · Jan 27, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Ops Ranger

I use a simple build that tears apart RA but nothing else
Its nice and easy to run and easy to create if you need a little extra faction to unlock somthing

Skills:
AoD
Golden Pheonix
Twisting Fangs
Golden Lotus
Fox Fangs
Nine Tails(interchangable with any dual attack you want)
Vigorous Spirit
Res Sig

I use Zealous Daggers of Fortitude

Golden Lotus, Zealous daggers and Crit strikes keep your energy up
Vigorous keeps up your health while attacking

Don't flame this or call it stupid till you try it your self (in RA)

PS: It is only an RA build, dont think it has much use outside that

I'm not saying it is a dumb build, but what's the point in running this when you can run a Shadow Prison 'sin which will do way more dmg and be able to stay alive longer?

Siva arwen · Jan 27, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Ops Ranger

I use a simple build that tears apart RA but nothing else
Its nice and easy to run and easy to create if you need a little extra faction to unlock somthing

Skills:
AoD
Golden Pheonix
Twisting Fangs
Golden Lotus
Fox Fangs
Nine Tails(interchangable with any dual attack you want)
Vigorous Spirit
Res Sig

I use Zealous Daggers of Fortitude

Golden Lotus, Zealous daggers and Crit strikes keep your energy up
Vigorous keeps up your health while attacking

Don't flame this or call it stupid till you try it your self (in RA)

PS: It is only an RA build, dont think it has much use outside that

Your build is not that bad, but do you think your build can face SP build 1v1 ? The reason is you use 5 atk skills that weaker than 4 atk skills of SP build, and you build don't even have a Speed buff or snare.