Curse

XvArchonvX · Jan 13, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Put Natural Stride in your extra slot. Without some sort of evasive stance, bringing Trolls is just begging to be interrupted. Natural Stride will give you both a speed boost to get to where you need to be to attack/interrupt as well as a way to block attacks. Before NS came out, I would have suggested either Dodge or Whirling Defenses, but NS is really the best choice for a stance when you only have one spot for one.

Xeones The Great · Jan 13, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

and the bowstring?

Amy Awien · Jan 13, 2007, 04:28 PM // 16:28

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and the bowstring?

I'd take a vampiric.

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

Xeones, you should quit considering Savage only as an interrupt.

It is an interrupt. There are better skills to fill that slot if damage is the purpose.

Xeones The Great · Jan 13, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03

nonono vampiric is a no. recurve refire rate is 2.4 seconds, and vamp sucks with that unless i have IAS or RtW or favorable winds, it would be a bit better if i dropped savage shot and put in favorable, but no.

zealous-0
sundering-0
poisonous-0
fiery-0
icey-0
shocking-0
ebon-0
silencing-0
barbed-0
crippling-0

Sir Mad · Jan 13, 2007, 05:07 PM // 17:07

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

Xeones, you should quit considering Savage only as an interrupt.

I'd take a vampiric.

It is an interrupt. There are better skills to fill that slot if damage is the purpose.

Emphasis on "only". As explained in the post this is extract from, yes of course it's an interrupt, but it's also an attack. And yes of course other bow attacks will deal more damage, but excepted PunShot they can't do both damage and interrupting. Now if you don't care about the damage, and just want to interrupt, Distracting Shot is better. But if you have an offensive build and want to add an interrupt, Savage Shot is the best choice IMO uless, again, you're going to face an annoying foes with a spammable skill you need to interrupt.

SparhawkJC · Jan 13, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Take Poisonous then if you don't like vamp. That will strengthen your shots against secondary targets by lengthening their poison duration.

Xeones The Great · Jan 13, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

ok poisonous it is, but which one?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rotwing_Recurve_Bow

or

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Nundak%27s_Recurve_Bow

????????????

Xeones The Great · Jan 13, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39

btw this is PvE, sir mad, and most monsters dont have more than 1 "good" skill, so IMO distracting shot is better. well, depending on the situation, ill switch out savage shot for marauder's shot or something.

and also, radiant armor for this build, correct?

Xenex Xclame · Jan 13, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Rotwing Recurve bow is my favorite bow out of my collection which consist out of +30 bows, so i would go with the Rotwing.

PS. Im hurt that my first post wasnt helpfull , i just decided one the build i believed to be the best ignoring everything else,which is what i understood you wanted

Xeones The Great · Jan 13, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39

yes im real sorry 4 that, u had same build lol. so rotwing is best? i mean for stats not looks. 5 enrgy vs 15^50. u choose? i need to finalize and close this thread.

XvArchonvX · Jan 14, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Go for a +15%^50 poisonous bow and have a +15%^50 Vamp one to back it up. If you don't have enough energy to keep your build running, you probably need to up your expertise. +5 energy is really only useful on a crip shot imo, although it can come in handy to wield after using rebirth if still in battle (i.e. when rezzing a monk).

If you choose only to go with a poisonous bow, you will likely be fine, but I find that it's almost always to have a vamp bow to switch to when using a damage dealing build. -1 degen is nothing and easily made up for even when using straight attacks with a hornbow.

Xeones The Great · Jan 14, 2007, 02:12 AM // 02:12

i only really have enough cash for nunduk's recurve, but if i somehow conjure some money, ill get elswyth's recurve. so here is my final build:

r/mo

marks-10,3,1
exp-11,1
WS-9,1
prot-4

apply poison
burning arrow{E}
distracting shot
savage shot
troll unguent
natural stride
mending touch
rebirth

nundak's recurve bow

full radiant armor

runes: sup marks, sup vigor, min exp, min WS, vitae

health-495
energy-33>>> (i think)

woohoo, thank god for guru!!!

Naga The Apocalypse · Jan 19, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

yea sundering sucks, vamp is better, end of story

jesh · Jan 19, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Originally Posted by Xeones The Great

btw this is PvE, sir mad, and most monsters dont have more than 1 "good" skill, so IMO distracting shot is better.

Enemies in PvE shouldn't live long enough for a Distracting Shot to matter.

Sir Mad · Jan 19, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by jesh

Enemies in PvE shouldn't live long enough for a Distracting Shot to matter.

Yeah that's right, except maybe for a few monsters/bosses with spammable skills, like Willa's Orison of Healing, or some ele spells. Yet if you can't kill a MOB nuker with MS within 50 secs after you've savaged it you're pretty dead anyway.

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Originally Posted by Xeones The Great

btw this is PvE, sir mad, and most monsters dont have more than 1 "good" skill, so IMO distracting shot is better.

I said that because we're talking about PvE

XvArchonvX · Jan 19, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

In PvP, shutdown is important, so Dist Shot is an excellent choice. In PvE, spammability is more important and targets should not be living for long enough for shutdown to matter. If you need to counter strong monks or monk bosses, then adapting a build for Concussion Shot or Broad Head Arrow is a better choice, but this is the exception to the rule. For this reason, Savage Shot is generally chosen over Dist Shot in most PvE instances.

If monsters have a skill that is really strong, then you are at an advantage to interupt one and then interupt the other monster with the same skill as quickly as possible. The shorter recharge time of Savage wins out here.